I hate myself.
 

This table was tight and I should probably move. There is one really nice seat to my left however.

Dealt to Me [ T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ] in MP1.
Folded to me. I raise. MP2 who loves to call my raises for some wierd reason but maybe I'm imagining things calls. Button, SB and BB call. I'm a popular guy all of a sudden.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
Checked to me, I check, MP2 checks. Button bets. SB folds, BB calls. I call. MP2 folds.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Check around.

** Dealing River ** [ K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Checked around.

- Jim

Re: I hate myself.
 

Bet the flop.

Re: I hate myself.
 

looks like an easy river value bet. 66-99 and all aces are gonna call here.

Re: I hate myself.
 

bet the flop, and bet the river

Re: I hate myself.
 

I disagree with a flop bet into a crowd where I have to call a raise on a 2x coordinated board.

- Jim

Re: I hate myself.
 

I 100% agree.

- Jim

Re: I hate myself.
 

Well, it's not like checkcalling is super either. Just bet. This is a good flop I think to bet. A K is less in the range ofa PF coldcaller and more in the range of a PF raiser, they'll be both less likely to have it and more likely to think you do. This way if you bet and get raised you can act with more confidence on the following streets. Also, a flop like that will sometimes make them scared of gettting 3bet and not raise the draw. The more I consider the more I hate checking there.

Re: I hate myself.
 

I'm not worried about AK being out. I think 80% of the time or more when you bet out on a flop like this, you get raised online. And when you get raised, I don't think you have any clearer notion about where you stand at all - not on this board.

Checking and calling is better because I think it costs you less bets for the same amount of information and you'll be getting odds to draw if it isn't raised in front of you. Sometimes by checking, you will get pushed off the winning hand if such a raise occurs. But this will happen way less often than you paying 2 bets if you had led out.

Put more simply, I would rather not cost myself effectively 1.8SB to see the turn than cost myself 1SB. With the rare occaision that I muck the best hand on the flop if it's bet and raised back to me.

The river is inexcusable and I posted this as a mea cupla to help me remember to not miss such obvious value bets in the future [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

- Jim

Re: I hate myself.
 

You are going to have the best hand the majority of the time, so I think you need to bet and try to fold hands like J9/Q9/AJ etc.