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raptor517 08-16-2005 11:28 PM

BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
***** Hand History for Game 2548156070 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:14906005 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Tuesday, August 16, 23:15:58 EDT 2005
Table Table 14038 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: sellalot ( $6310 )
Seat 6: EAMelguizo ( $2125 )
Seat 8: mikeylions ( $290 )
Seat 10: Itachi86 ( $1275 )
Trny:14906005 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Itachi86 [ 9d Ad ]
Itachi86

UH OH WHAT DO YOU DO???? holla

08-16-2005 11:32 PM

Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
I like a minraise here. If you get reraised by one of the bigger stacks behin you, you can reasonably assume that they have a pretty strong hand, and can fold and make a move when you are already ITM. More than likely, the two others will fold, and you will be HU against the short stack with what should be a favorite to knock him out and add to your chip total.

Myst 08-16-2005 11:35 PM

Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
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I like a minraise here. If you get reraised by one of the bigger stacks behin you, you can reasonably assume that they have a pretty strong hand, and can fold and make a move when you are already ITM. More than likely, the two others will fold, and you will be HU against the short stack with what should be a favorite to knock him out and add to your chip total.

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Ha! Miniraising is absolutely the worst thing you can do. A perceptive player is going to notice that, take that for weakness, and reraise over the top with any two, and YOU CANT call, even if you know hes pushing any two, b/c of the uber short stack.

Back to raptor. I dont give a $hit what ICM says about this situation. Its all about relative chip power. In other words, how much more improved is your situation going to be if you successfully steal the blinds? 1200->1500 is not much, esp with the uber short stack about to bust.

ICM is a theorhetical structure to HELP us understand sngs better, but, its not the ABSOLUTE theory.

Fold.

08-16-2005 11:36 PM

Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
Anyone who folded...you honestly like the odds of getting dealt anything better in the next two hands?

POOOOOOSH!

Myst 08-16-2005 11:37 PM

Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
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Anyone who folded...you honestly like the odds of getting dealt anything better in the next two hands?

POOOOOOSH!

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Uh, there is a short stack that is about to go Bye Bye next hand.

The Don 08-16-2005 11:37 PM

Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
If you like money you should fold.

bluefeet 08-16-2005 11:40 PM

Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
minraise. shortie just might bail (despite getting something like 8:1) if button or SB push back - in which case you fold. so be it...he's all-in next hand and you still have close to t1000 chips. if he comes along, i call. he has to beat both of you.

djj6835 08-16-2005 11:40 PM

Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like a minraise here. If you get reraised by one of the bigger stacks behin you, you can reasonably assume that they have a pretty strong hand, and can fold and make a move when you are already ITM. More than likely, the two others will fold, and you will be HU against the short stack with what should be a favorite to knock him out and add to your chip total.


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If I'm the big stack I'm pushing any two back at a min raise.

I would probably still push here despite the really small stack. I would be a little concerned that the BB might fold his blind the the shortstack in order to keep the bubble alive.

edit: misread the hand, thought bigstack was in the BB, now I would fold.

Karak567 08-16-2005 11:40 PM

Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like a minraise here. If you get reraised by one of the bigger stacks behin you, you can reasonably assume that they have a pretty strong hand, and can fold and make a move when you are already ITM. More than likely, the two others will fold, and you will be HU against the short stack with what should be a favorite to knock him out and add to your chip total.

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If I am a big stack and I see you minraise and then look down at 32o I can't get all in fast enough.

I say fold, and I do not think it is close.

djj6835 08-16-2005 11:41 PM

Re: BUBBLE!! uber small stack in bb A9 utg..
 
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Uh, there is a short stack that is about to go Bye Bye next hand.

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I think this is a serious mistake to assume this...

edit: oops, thought the bigstack was the BB, nevermind this is a much safer assumption


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