$109s - Q5o Hand
Villain looks semi-aggro, but hasn't had to show anything down yet. I haven't played many hands.
Seat 5 is the button Total number of players : 5 Seat 5: papafatstaxs ( $2555 ) Seat 6: bigraise22 ( $2353 ) Seat 7: Me ( $1202 ) Seat 8: tonyvon ( $2720 ) Seat 9: Cidermill189 ( $1170 ) Blinds(75/150) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Me [ Qh 5s ] tonyvon folds. Cidermill189 folds. papafatstaxs calls [150]. bigraise22 calls [75]. Me checks. ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 9h, Td ] bigraise22 checks. Me checks. papafatstaxs checks. ** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ] bigraise22 checks. Me checks. papafatstaxs bets [150]. bigraise22 folds. Me calls [150]. ** Dealing River ** [ Th ] Me checks. papafatstaxs bets [600]. Me calls [600]. Where's the converter at these days anyway? |
Re: $109s - Q5o Hand
i'd play it the same exact way - so i hope it's right [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
edit: to elaborate a bit - IP, he's leading with either the FD or the T. his river lead is a little to big IMO for a "value bet" vs. what could be a drawing blind. a bigger Q sucks, but i'd expect a bigger representation on the turn. i think you're good more times than not. |
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I hate checking that turn. A lot. You can let a lot of hands draw against your hand which is almost definitely the best hand right now and be very confused on the river. Just take it down now with a 2/3 pot bet.
I love checking that river. You're only really getting value out of snapping off bluffs, so value betting seems like a good way to give money to better hands and just get worse ones to fold. Check calling seems a good way to maximize the value of your hand. |
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I do not play it that way. I almost never play a hand the way you do. Still, I think we are both doing ok.
You certainly have a different style and have given me as much to think about as almost any other poster. What percentage of flops do you see? |
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I hate checking that turn. A lot. You can let a lot of hands draw against your hand which is almost definitely the best hand right now and be very confused on the river. Just take it down now with a 2/3 pot bet. I love checking that river. You're only really getting value out of snapping off bluffs, so value betting seems like a good way to give money to better hands and just get worse ones to fold. Check calling seems a good way to maximize the value of your hand. [/ QUOTE ] I don't get it. OP has a very weak hand on the river. Behind to a flush, a ten, various straights, and a Q with a real kicker. I guess I take a shot on the turn, but I'm done with the hand after that if I don't take it down. |
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[ QUOTE ] I hate checking that turn. A lot. You can let a lot of hands draw against your hand which is almost definitely the best hand right now and be very confused on the river. Just take it down now with a 2/3 pot bet. I love checking that river. You're only really getting value out of snapping off bluffs, so value betting seems like a good way to give money to better hands and just get worse ones to fold. Check calling seems a good way to maximize the value of your hand. [/ QUOTE ] I don't get it. OP has a very weak hand on the river. Behind to a flush, a ten, various straights, and a Q with a real kicker. I guess I take a shot on the turn, but I'm done with the hand after that if I don't take it down. [/ QUOTE ] Think about how the villain would play some of the hands that beat us which you described above. Not a lot of them check the flop closing the betting. I'm not saying we're always ahead, and that we're 'trapping him', but I think check calling the river minimizes what we lose when behind and maximizes what we win when we're ahead. |
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How often do you think you get called if you push this preflop?
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How often do you think you get called if you push this preflop? [/ QUOTE ] Too much. Button limps are suspect, but it depends on the player. |
Re: $109s - Q5o Hand
I like snapping off bluffs here, at the same time I don't think you are beating many hands.
If any queen bets, you're beat. I don't think you're going to show profit too much given this spot. |
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