Middle set.
 

Villian/CO ($369) is very aggressive both pre-flop and post-flop but seems to be a semi-thinking player. Hero is BB w/ 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and $325.

NL200 6-max

2 folds, CO raises to $7, button calls $7, SB calls, $6, hero calls $5.

Flop ($26) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)

SB checks, hero bets $18, CO raises to $40, button folds, SB folds, hero calls.

Turn ($105) T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Hero....?

Also, how is flop?

Re: Middle set.
 

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I think I prefer check-raising the turn here, b/c i think he's gonna feel he has to bet most of his made hands here since the board is so draw heavy he will have to proctect his hand and you're still deep enough that he feels he isn't commited. Yes It's fairly transparent, but still you still easily be c/r'ing a draw on this board (b/c of stack sizes) and even if he doesn't give action that often with a worse
hand taking down flop-pot + turn bet is still a nice scoop with this hand. Even if "disaster" strikes and he checks behind on the turn you stil lhave enough money behind to play poker on any river.
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Re: Middle set.
 

With this depth and his puny raise, I'd rather 3bet the flop than just call.

Re: Middle set.
 

Standard (and solid) line is the check-raise here. However, against a thinking opponent, I might lead out here for less than half the pot. If he reads you for a draw, he'll be forced to raise a lot to price you out. Then you can 3-bet and take down a bigger pot. Additionally, if he just calls your bet, you have a better idea that you are well ahead in the hand. He may have picked up a draw, and you can lead again on a blank river (for more of the pot, as it could look like a busted draw steal)

Re: Middle set.
 

There is no reason to not be 3-betting this flop!

Re: Middle set.
 

mmm I don't know about 3-betting the flop here, it gives away too much information, I've think potting the turn is best, we don't want him checking behind and we don't want to lose value against overpairs.

Re: Middle set.
 

I 3-bet the flop. As played, I bet $50. I don't want him to check behind with a flush draw or anything else that I'm currently smashing. A $50 bet acts as a bet for value, a protector against a flush draw, and it looks weak enough that it could very likely get raised by this 'very aggressive' player.

Re: Middle set.
 

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mmm I don't know about 3-betting the flop here, it gives away too much information, I've think potting the turn is best here, we don't want him checking behind.

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How is it giving away too much information? You shouldn't need a set to 3bet in this situation.

Re: Middle set.
 

Flop is ok except lead for pot. Lead turn for like $70 or so and then lead river for like $120 or so and I think you aren't leaving too much behind.

Re: Middle set.
 

Which hands do you see a 3-bet calling?

Is a semi-thinking player with an overpair going to think 'wow yea he must have a flush draw or some bs, I'll push a non-diamond turn!'

I doubt it.

I don't like the unneeded fold equity that a 3-bet generates in this situation.