Rake Instead of Blind Increase in Tournaments
 

I thought up with the idea the other day to structure a tournament with a rake instead of increasing blinds. I'm fairly new to poker so I realize this might not be a new idea. If it hasn't been tried, does anyone have any thoughts as to why it would be an especially bad idea? Such a structure could incorporate an increasing blind as well, but of course it would happen much more slowly. Thanks for the feedback.

Re: Rake Instead of Blind Increase in Tournaments
 

Uh, what would that accomplish?

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Uh, reducing the number of chip in play would serve the same purpose as increasing blinds. Do you see how?

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Uh, reducing the number of chip in play would serve the same purpose as increasing blinds. Do you see how?

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The main event of the WSOP would take months if not years that way.
Unless of course the rake was like 50% or so. Then, I would never play a hand other than AA and get blinded down.

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The blinds are there to force action and to keep people from just sitting around all day waiting for pocket aces, especially short stack. A rake would do the exact opposite.

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I realize that it seems like it wouldnt have a fast enough effect forcing players out, but combined with a significantly slower increase in blinds, it seems like it could accomplish something. Is the only criticism of this idea that it would have very little actual effect over the short period of time tournaments are played? I can think of other things, like punishing players for winning hands, that make it undesirable. But it also seems like good players would do better, as it would less emphasize needing good cards "while the blinds are low".

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The way I see it, blinds increasing just devalues chips, forcing short stacks to play for larger and larger portions of their chip count. When blinds get high enough, a short stack must basically forget about optimum play and choose the best place to "gamble". This would be much less of a factor if blinds increased more slowly, but the number of chips in play decreased.

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The first obvious objection is why fix what isn't broke? The purpose of a rake is to pay the house, the alternative to a rake is table rent. The purpose of a blind is to force action. Using one for the other doesn't seem necessary.

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When blinds get high enough, a short stack must basically forget about optimum play and choose the best place to "gamble".

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Yes, this is the short stack's punishment for getting short stacked. If you came up with this idea as a response to losing a few tourns on a short stack I'd suggest you learn to play more aggressively up front rather than look to alter the game to protect slower players.

Re: Rake Instead of Blind Increase in Tournaments
 

yer kidding, right?

blinds and antes come from everyone -
rake comes from pots won...

all you'd have to do is never play a hand -

worst idea. ever.

RB

Re: Rake Instead of Blind Increase in Tournaments
 

The blinds create a pot for the first action. If the rake takes the majority of the blinds value out of the game, why would the first player put in chips? And who would cold call a bet?

Right now if it is 200-100, and I bet 400: I'm playing for 300 profit. In your game my profit would be 150? Less?

Right now if some cold calls my raise there is 400 vs 700 pot. Again in your game the pot is 400 vs 550.

Blinds make action. Rakes kill them.