The hardy perrenial: KK with an A flop
 

A small twist this time - It's MP3's raising. He's 16/14 after 80 hands, with a PAF of 3.5.

Do we believe him?

Cryptologic 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero?

Re: The hardy perrenial: KK with an A flop
 

Folds.

Re: The hardy perrenial: KK with an A flop
 

Ugh. I have to fold here. They're both acting like they have the Ace, probably one of them does.

Re: The hardy perrenial: KK with an A flop
 

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Folds.

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Re: The hardy perrenial: KK with an A flop
 

If you check the flop, it had better be to check-fold.

Re: The hardy perrenial: KK with an A flop
 

I don't think folds come much easier. I think you need to lead the flop though.

Re: The hardy perrenial: KK with an A flop
 

Always lead the flop in this situation, unless you feel like taking shots the whole hand. I bet/fold the flop, then bet the turn.

Re: The hardy perrenial: KK with an A flop
 

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I don't think folds come much easier. I think you need to lead the flop though.

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Indeed I folded.

To leading the flop- I can see the argument for it, but considering both MP2 and 3 were in the pot, and both were TAG (forgot to mention this about MP2 in OP), I couldn't see much of a case that i was ahead. If MP2 had checked and MP3 had bet I might have tried a pop at the C/R, just in case it was QQ/JJ, but under the circs i thought discretion was better part...

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Do we believe him?

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I sure believe one of 'em. Fold. But, this is definitely a good flop to bet/fold, worry about "taking shots" from the table later.