27$ Bubble-\"have your cake and shove it in Villain\'s face too\"
 

PokerStars Game #2744032480: Tournament #13468525, Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2005/10/06 - 23:26:43 (ET)
Table '13468525 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: pooh74 (7540 in chips)
Seat 3: bigdope32 (2665 in chips)
Seat 5: dreamlab (790 in chips)
Seat 6: puddy55 (2505 in chips)
pooh74: posts the ante 25
bigdope32: posts the ante 25
dreamlab: posts the ante 25
puddy55: posts the ante 25
bigdope32: posts small blind 200
dreamlab: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pooh74 [7h 7c]
puddy55: folds
pooh74: calls 400
bigdope32: calls 200
dreamlab: checks
*** FLOP *** [Tc Ad 8s]
bigdope32: checks
dreamlab: checks
pooh74: checks
*** TURN *** [Tc Ad 8s] [2c]
bigdope32: bets 400
dreamlab: folds
pooh74: raises 6715 to 7115 and is all-in
bigdope32: folds
pooh74 collected 2100 from pot
pooh74: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2100 | Rake 0
Board [Tc Ad 8s 2c]
Seat 1: pooh74 (button) collected (2100)
Seat 3: bigdope32 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: dreamlab (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: puddy55 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Flame away...But I love it.

Oh and just in case you accuse me of making a brag post, i went on to take third in this little event. go me!

Re: 27$ Bubble-\"have your cake and shove it in Villain\'s face too\"
 

Not pushing preflop is really, really, really dumb, and that flop shows us why.

Re: 27$ Bubble-\"have your cake and shove it in Villain\'s face too\"
 

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Not pushing preflop is really, really, really dumb, and that flop shows us why.

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I dont care about what came on the flop...tell me why limping is wrong in theory.

Re: 27$ Bubble-\"have your cake and shove it in Villain\'s face too\"
 

Because you are giving away free cards and will have no idea where you are at on the flop.

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Because you are giving away free cards and will have no idea where you are at on the flop.

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ugh...nevermind. I wanted to get a game theory discussion going. Not discuss cards and cEV etc...

alright, Ill give a hint...how much do I stand winning on this hand fom shortie BB, and how much do the other two medium stacks have left? yes, there's math invloved.

Now, what is SB going to call my allin with on that flop or turn? Hint: I bet he had an Ace in his hand.

Re: 27$ Bubble-\"have your cake and shove it in Villain\'s face too\"
 

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Now, what is SB going to call my allin with on that flop or turn? Hint: I bet he had an Ace in his hand.

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At the 27s, I wouldn't make that bet too confidently.

Re: 27$ Bubble-\"have your cake and shove it in Villain\'s face too\"
 

I don't really see what game theory has to do with it. If I had 5 or 6x BB and hit top or second pair on that flop, I'm betting all my chips, and I'm most likely going to be calling if the big stack goes allin.

If you're betting Bigdope had an ace, then I'm betting that he's a horrible player.

Re: 27$ Bubble-\"have your cake and shove it in Villain\'s face too\"
 

I love it too.

This is beautiful because bigdope must have a hell of a hand to call here (in theory). On top of this, losing the hand not only doesn't knock you out, but it keeps you way ahead of two other stacks.

Re: 27$ Bubble-\"have your cake and shove it in Villain\'s face too\"
 

i don't like it. a smaller raise accomplishes the same thing and it he goes over the top you can let it go. the only thing i like about it is that it trains him to not bet flops in the future.

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i don't like it. a smaller raise accomplishes the same thing and it he goes over the top you can let it go. the only thing i like about it is that it trains him to not bet flops in the future.

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Im putting bigdope to the test here with shortie left with 340 in chips. Im not giving him the option to go over the top.