Two differences of opinion
 

Two hands from the Super Tuesday last night on which my friend and I differ- quick poll:

Hand 1- Just moved to table- 505 after posting 50 BB. Avg stack is 2000ish. UTG+1 (4500ish) raises standard to 150, mp w/900 cold calls- folded to you with a couple black eights... it's pretty obvious you...

Hand 2- 945 on the button, 50/100 blinds, average around 2500. Folded to CO (2200) who makes standard 300 raise- you have 77 on the button

Re: Two differences of opinion
 

First hand, I wouldn't push or fold. I'd call and hope to spike an 8.

Second hand, I'd fold.

Re: Two differences of opinion
 

I voted fold for the first though a push isn't all bad if you're itching for more chips. I reckon you might get one of them to fold.

Hand two is an easy push if you ask me. You might have some fold equity in there. I would be cautious if the blinds had very few chips or a huge dominating stack.

Re: Two differences of opinion
 

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Second hand, I'd fold.

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Just curious how you voted, then. When I checked the results they were 6 to 0 in favor of pushing...?

Re: Two differences of opinion
 

Hand 1 is almost completely read dependent. Hand 2 is an instapush.

Re: Two differences of opinion
 

First hand is a routine fold, unless your bored and want to try to triple up. Pushing here gives both players a good reason to stick around.

2nd hand is a push. You just don't have enough chips to get fancy, and you have decent equity so long as the blinds fold. I could see folding, but it doesn't look like it's an easy table.

Re: Two differences of opinion
 

Reread it, skimmed the first time and didn't see the stack size. Yes, hand 2 I'd push.

I thought stacks were bigger, with your stacks being small, I don't mind pushes in either spot as much.

For some reason, I thought I read that your stack was about 2000 on the second hand, my mistake.

Re: Two differences of opinion
 

There should be an option for calling in the first hand, that's my default play in this situations. Easy easy push in hand 2.

Re: Two differences of opinion
 

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Hand 1 is almost completely read dependent. Hand 2 is an instapush.

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My exact thoughts. Swear. Scared me when I saw it in print.

Re: Two differences of opinion
 

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First hand, I wouldn't push or fold. I'd call and hope to spike an 8.

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Isn't this the most horribly wrong thing we could do? Sure, if an 8 flops we're probably doubling up or even tripling, but if it doesn't we're folding to any bet and we've wasted nearly 20% of our stack.