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gomberg 11-25-2005 10:52 PM

i play bad
 
$10-20 full table

UTG 13/4/1.7 $2.5k limps, 1 more limper, I(cover table) raise to $95 w/ QQ, UTG calls, other guy folds.

flop ($240) 8hTc6d check, I bet $150, UTG CR to $350, I call.

Turn ($940) 5s UTG bets $375, I raise to $750, UTG pushes, I fold.

Only read is that this is most likely a PP and I almost never min-raise.

kagame 11-25-2005 10:55 PM

Re: i play bad
 
pretty sure i prefer a flop raise or a cold call on the turn

care to comment on why you tried this line? what you were trying to accomplish?

captZEEbo1 11-25-2005 11:34 PM

Re: i play bad
 
I raise more preflop, I'd probably call turn or fold flop?

greg nice 11-25-2005 11:34 PM

Re: i play bad
 
a flop 3 bet would be terrible
call behind turn, re-eval river

gomberg 11-25-2005 11:35 PM

Re: i play bad
 
It was more of a freeze bet and since he hadn't seen me min-raise like that, I thought he wouldn't push w/out a better hand than I had. Hmmm, don't know about a 3bet there on the flop... Calling the turn was for sure an option.

11-26-2005 01:16 AM

Re: i play bad
 
So your miniraise on the turn was just to gain information? Since you folded after he pushed were you just seeing if he pushed so you could fold and then not have to call off the rest of your stack?

Also, what happens if villian just calls. Then what is your plan for the river. If he checks do you check behind? What if he leads out on river?

lehighguy 11-26-2005 01:22 AM

Re: i play bad
 
I'd be really worried against a rock here. You are behind on flop for sure.

gomberg 11-26-2005 02:50 AM

Re: i play bad
 
yeah, at the time I was thinking a half info / half value bet. If he calls, I for sure check behind on the river and hope to see JJ.

I think the correct play here was to fold the flop aganist this guy. I'm in too marginal a spot there against a tight non-aggro player.

cero_z 11-26-2005 03:54 AM

Re: i play bad
 
Hey Jeff,

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$10-20 full table...I(cover table)

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You've come a long way in a short time, dude; I doubt you play bad.

This looks a lot like a set; I'm inclined to call the flop and fold the turn unimproved against a non-tricky player. As you noted, JJ is the only non-bluff you beat, and this would be a weird spot for a guy with those stats (or almost anyone) to bluff.

AEKDBet 11-26-2005 03:57 AM

Re: i play bad
 
fold preflop


lol god i am funnyy, sory drynk. seriously thog at this poitn u are 100% sure uy are beat/ the onyl deb ate is weather or not u can get away before this ppoint. (spell check off nigga!)


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