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splashpot 12-03-2005 03:14 PM

$22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t745)
MP2 (t770)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t920)
Hero (t775)
SB (t980)
BB (t785)
UTG (t640)
UTG+1 (t785)
UTG+2 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t50</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t150, CO folds.

Flop: (t472.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t45</font>, Hero ??

12-03-2005 03:22 PM

Re: $22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
that ridiculous bet could mean that he's afraid of the A too.

Not really sure what to do though. Any reasonable raise would pretty much pot commit you. I would probably call and see what villain does on the turn.

Hornacek 12-03-2005 03:27 PM

Re: $22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
fold

12-03-2005 03:27 PM

Re: $22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
that's a pretty bizarre raise from villain.

i definitely want to raise here. problem is that the pots already at 500+ and you've got 575 behind. you may be going broke on this hand... been involved with any other hands with villain?

ReDeYES88 12-03-2005 03:48 PM

Re: $22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
If you give villan a bit of credit, then it seems that the two flush flop would lead him to bet a hell of a lot more than t45 if he had an A. A flopped set at this level would most likely either check to trap or raise to the flush draw as well. Combined with his call preflop, it smells like QQ-TT.

I most likely can't bring myself to fold this, because I've seen this weak flop bet many times when villan is not holding an ace.

I might flat call, I might reraise (but not push)

12-03-2005 04:04 PM

Re: $22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
If the bet had been normal sized I would generally just fold. My first thought was to call and postpone the real decision until after the turn. But, maybe a raise is in order to help figure out where I am.

PoBoy321 12-03-2005 04:11 PM

Re: $22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
I hate party tournaments because the stacks are so shallow so early on. That said, I probably raise to likee 250 or something here, and after all, you've got at least 3 outs if you aren't ahead already, which I think you will be most of the time. This certainly looks like a scared JJ or QQ.

12-03-2005 04:31 PM

Re: $22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
What kind of crazy bet is that? Could he be trying to buy a cheap turn card? I suppose this is unlikely given that you have the Kc. It seems to me that a raise large enough to give you more information will leave you pretty much pot committed.
I'd probably call here and see what develops on the turn. I can't fold to such a tiny bet.

bigt439 12-03-2005 04:55 PM

Re: $22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
Call and re-evaluate turn. I've gotten to showdown with a winner here for cheap lots, but I also have had to fold a lot too.

12-03-2005 10:30 PM

Re: $22 - How do you play KK with a flopped A?
 
Villain's 45 bet on the flop is too small to fold to. Call and gauge on the turn.


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