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wtfsvi 05-12-2005 05:22 PM

NL$100, KQo
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

<font color="#C00000">SB ($66.55)</font>
BB ($103.25)
Hero ($101.5)
<font color="#C00000">MP ($428.09)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button ($80.72)</font>

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.5.
Hero calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, SB (poster) calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero folds.

I have a little less than 100 hands on MP. Raises about 10% of hands preflop, is aggressive postflop.

Limp fine, fold fine?

orange 05-12-2005 05:28 PM

Re: NL$100, KQo
 
I think it's fine. Your OOP with a marginal hand. Folding is good imo.

FreakDaddy 05-12-2005 05:32 PM

Re: NL$100, KQo
 
Limping here totally depends on the table. What's the table PFR%? If it's above 6 then I don't limp with this hand UTG. The fold is fine.

BBD 05-12-2005 05:32 PM

Re: NL$100, KQo
 
I would have raised UTG with the K-Qo. Folding to MP's raise was probably a smart play, but with the button and SB both calling there might have been enough action to call here.

wtfsvi 05-12-2005 05:37 PM

Re: NL$100, KQo
 
Table contains 2 loose passives, 2 loose aggressives (including MP) and one rock. Table pfr is 7%; I find that (very) low for NL$100 6max.

FreakDaddy 05-12-2005 05:48 PM

Re: NL$100, KQo
 
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Table contains 2 loose passives, 2 loose aggressives (including MP) and one rock. Table pfr is 7%; I find that (very) low for NL$100 6max.

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Ahh, missed the 6 max in the hand. I've played little 6 max but you're right, 7% would be low. I don't really know what a proper adjustment number would be here. Raising every once in awehile isn't out of the question either. My basic point though is that if it's fairly low, then limping with these marginal hands is OK, but if it's high then you're just spewing chips.

wtfsvi 05-12-2005 05:55 PM

Re: NL$100, KQo
 
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I would have raised UTG with the K-Qo. Folding to MP's raise was probably a smart play, but with the button and SB both calling there might have been enough action to call here.

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I would be more ready to call if I'm heads up actually. Cut's down on the reverse implied odds. (I'll be embarassed if I used that phrase in the wrong context just now.)

tripdad 05-12-2005 06:28 PM

Re: NL$100, KQo
 
limping is fine IMO. i would most certainly call, though, getting better than 4:1 for it to try to hit big and get paid off. gotta play it well after the flop, though.

ni-han!

snappo 05-13-2005 12:52 PM

Re: NL$100, KQo
 
I don't limp with KQo UTG, I fold it. I'm not saying that is the correct play and I'm sure there are situations where it's fine to limp with them. But you're in horrible position and it is a trap hand that can get you in a lot of trouble unless you have stellar postflop skills.

So I'd say the limp is questionable. The fold to the raise is definitely fine.

pzhon 05-13-2005 03:46 PM

Re: NL$100, KQo
 
If this were 9-handed or 10-handed, KQo UTG would be a marginal hand. Sometimes I limp with it, but usually I fold.

Since it is 5-handed, you start in MP3. KQo is worth a raise.

Given that you limped and there was a raise and a call behind you and then the SB called, you should be very worried that you are dominated, and folding is fine.


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