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10-31-2005 01:02 PM

Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
What is the rule for betting a single chip that is greater than the minimum bet, and not verbalizing the bet?

Situation:
Blinds are 2/4.
Folded to the CO who puts in a single t10 chip and doesn't say anything.

Is this a raise or is this a call.

gl,
Mike.

Cin0s3 10-31-2005 01:07 PM

Re: Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
No verbal decleration? Sounds like a raise to me.

TheBlueMonster 10-31-2005 01:07 PM

Re: Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
usually just a call. depends on your home rules I guess.

10-31-2005 01:10 PM

Re: Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
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usually just a call. depends on your home rules I guess.

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What about in a casino? Does this rule vary or is it a standard?

tubalkain 10-31-2005 01:25 PM

Re: Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
Preflop it's a call. Postflop it's a raise.

Hofzinser 10-31-2005 01:35 PM

Re: Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
Where I play, if you put just one chip into the pot without saying anything then it's always just a call, regardless of the chip's denomination.

KenProspero 10-31-2005 02:32 PM

Re: Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
Roberts Rules of Poker --

Section 3 -- Betting and Raising (Rule 15).

"15. If you put a single chip in the pot that is larger than the bet , but do not announce a raise , you are assumed to have only called. Example: In a $3-$6 game, when a player bets $6 and the next player puts a $25 chip in the pot without saying anything, that player has merely called the $6 bet ."

CrazyN8 10-31-2005 03:08 PM

Re: Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
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Roberts Rules of Poker --

Section 3 -- Betting and Raising (Rule 15).

"15. If you put a single chip in the pot that is larger than the bet , but do not announce a raise , you are assumed to have only called. Example: In a $3-$6 game, when a player bets $6 and the next player puts a $25 chip in the pot without saying anything, that player has merely called the $6 bet ."

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yep, I remember live at the bike had a hand like this and it was ruled a call. Guy put in a single chip much larger than the blind (NL game) and never said raise.

SamIAm 10-31-2005 03:42 PM

Re: Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
It's a call.

It can get pretty bad. I was playing live and had AA preflop. It came to me, and I said "Y'all know how I roll." and threw in a large chip.

The dealer made change for me. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] Apparently the way I roll is by revealing the strength of my hand without getting more bets into the pot, embarassing myself and losing money.
-Sam

10-31-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Single chip non-verbal raise?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Roberts Rules of Poker --

Section 3 -- Betting and Raising (Rule 15).

"15. If you put a single chip in the pot that is larger than the bet , but do not announce a raise , you are assumed to have only called. Example: In a $3-$6 game, when a player bets $6 and the next player puts a $25 chip in the pot without saying anything, that player has merely called the $6 bet ."

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That's the limit rule. The rule is different in No-Limit:

Chapter 14:

11. A bet of a single chip or bill without comment is considered to be the full amount of the chip or bill allowed. However, a player acting on a previous bet with a larger denomination chip or bill is calling the previous bet unless this player makes a verbal declaration to raise the pot. (This includes acting on the forced bet of the big blind .)


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