rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

MP1 is winning a lot by calling a lot. 70 percent of the hands he is in - has only shown good things.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (8 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Is the flop call ok? I thought more about folding the turn when I paired. But figured that I might escape the flush. and a three would be an out. (althought maybe a split pot)

Re: rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

Flop: SB bets, Hero calls,

TERRIBLE.

Re: rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

yeah. fold. the. flop.
then. fold. the. turn.

Re: rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

Don't get involved in gutshots on a flush heavy/draw heavy board. Horrible flop call. Almost as horrible as Bill planning on playing Drew Henson this weekend over me.

Re: rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

No, the call is disgusting.

Re: rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

for devil's advocate, what if hero was on the button and somehow misclicked and saw the flop and the action went bet call call?

Re: rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

How many outs does hero have? How big is the pot? It's really simple.

Re: rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

getting 7-1 with four outs, three if the FD is out there, with the advantage of acting last on the turn and river if he makes his hand and there are bets and calls in front of him. I think its pretty close, but probably still a fold.

Re: rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

even with reads that this wont get raised?

I think the thing that said how bad this hand was was having 7 bad outs on the turn, and then having to call and not being able to raise the river.

or should I have raised the river?

Re: rivered small two pair, weak play?
 

It's closer, it's still a fold.