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therockofgibraltar 12-23-2005 10:11 AM

Givign up too easily?
 
no reads.

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, CO (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, CO calls, Hero folds.

therockofgibraltar 12-23-2005 10:14 AM

Re: Givign up too easily?
 
PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP folds, CO calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

stupid call?


River: (9.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB

gonzopro 12-23-2005 11:06 AM

Re: Givign up too easily?
 
Extremely hard to comment on these hands without any read at all but I'll give it a go:

Hand 1 - i think this fold is ok if MP is a reasonable player. But, you are getting 13:1 with 2-4 outs (if we are behind) so I am definitely paying off a maniac and crying when CO hits his gutshot on the river.

Hand 2 - calling this river getting 10:1 is not a leak, so this is very read dependent but you are beat by any reasonable hand so a fold is ok against an unknown.

gehrig 12-23-2005 12:31 PM

Re: Givign up too easily?
 
hand 1 is okay. if it was HU u gotta call down

hand 2 is bad. either call down or fold the turn. u dont have the odds u need to try and improve


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