Folding the river for one bet with top pair...
 

Two limpers, and the SB raises. I call in the BB with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

SB is multi-tabling and TAGish, and though I don't know him I think he's probably a good player. Just my initial reaction.


Flop is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB bets, I raise, one cold-caller, and the SB three-bets. We both call.

Turn is a 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], SB bets, I call and the other player calls.

River is a 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], SB bets and I fold...


EDIT for typo.

Re: Folding the river for one bet with top pair...
 

so why would you do that? the river isn't scary at all. You just want to be reamed, don't you?

SB may have KT or KJ for all you know. Or even a pissed off QQ.

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I really hope that was a misclick....

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Hmm. with the PFR, the 3 bet and the turn donk, I doubt SB has QQ-99. It looks like KQ for a chop, AA.

It crossed my mind that A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] would play this way, with a bet on the busted draw.

However, that's unlikely with two opponents to bluff out.

I think the river fold is not heinous. Far from it. Whether I'd fold it is another matter, but I'm a megadonkey.

EDIT: given other responses, I'd like to know if the villain has a history of overplaying pockets vs a board overcard; what sort of SD% gone to etc. I agree that KJs, KJo, KTs and maybe KTo play this way; I am still sceptical 99-QQ would be played so TAGtardy, but it's a possibility.

I still don't know for sure if the fold is goot or not...
As ramrod says, you're getting 19-1 on a river call, but a player is still to act behind you, right? Hmm.

Re: Folding the river for one bet with top pair...
 

if you don't have odds to call the river, I don't see how you have odds to call the turn.

my point is you should call the river, KJ is very possible here.

Re: Folding the river for one bet with top pair...
 

getting about 19-1 I am calling that river for sure.

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The possibility that he was playing top pair with a flush draw aggressively on the flop is compelling enough to call a river bet. I see we're losing to something like K3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] a fair amount, but the pot has gotten too big at this point. We have to call, even though we may be beat.

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If you aren't planning on calling the river then there's no reason to call the turn.

I call down after being 3bet on the flop.

Haupt_234

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if you don't have odds to call the river, I don't see how you have odds to call the turn.

my point is you should call the river, KJ is very possible here.

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I think KJs is the only reasonable hand I beat here, though a chop is possible. He's a good player raising two limpers out of the SB and he's done nothing but bet and raise.

I called the turn not trying to spike, but still trying to work out if I was behind. When he bets the river, I think I'm not winning.

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If you aren't planning on calling the river then there's no reason to call the turn.

I call down after being 3bet on the flop.

Haupt_234

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If he has two pair, we have outs to the board pairing.