4 handed 200/400 bellagio hand
 

4 handed. button is an ok player. He raises pre-flop the right amount and defends his big blind pretty well...a little on the loose side. He still overvalues hands to call 3 bets in the bb when it's raised, as well as randomly open limps stuff like Q7s in 5 handed games every once in awhile. He also calls too much in the sb by far. Postflop eh he's ok. He puts a decent amount of preasure on. He had just sat down mb 10 minutes ago but we played the night before.

He raises on the button, sb folds, I 3 bet K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] out of the bb, he calls.

flop T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet he calls.

turn 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I bet, he raises, I 3 bet, he 4 bets, I call.

river 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I check/raise planning on folding to a 3 bet.

Re: 4 handed 200/400 bellagio hand
 

I just call preflop. You don't have that great equity, and when you autobet the flop, he will be able to put huge pressure on you with his position.

I like the turn.

On the river, couldn't he have a worse 6? I would have a hard time folding.

Re: 4 handed 200/400 bellagio hand
 

I might not be able to read into this too well, but when the only hand you pass on the river is T7 (leaving sets, T6, 67, and 89) is there even any value in a c/r to begin with? Do you expect him to be 4 betting a 1 pair hand some portion of the time?

Re: 4 handed 200/400 bellagio hand
 

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I check/raise planning on folding to a 3 bet.


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this reminds me of our A9 vs. K9 hand when you 3bet me w/ K9 and i folded to your 4 bet on the river...

i would advise against making the same mistake i did.

i like a bet call if you dont think he'd do this with AA/two pair.

if he would a checkraise/call would be better than a bet call or bet/3bet/call.

Barron

EDIT: oh yeah, i call preflop and c'r flop.

Re: 4 handed 200/400 bellagio hand
 

The turn bet/3 bet line is pointless IMO, hes just about never folding better hands. The river line is perfect.

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The turn bet/3 bet line is pointless IMO, hes just about never folding better hands.

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Would he never play a 7 this way? Also, wouldn't it be good to get people with a fair amount of outs to fold, and give up that equity? Also, isn't this 3-bet sometimes for value, as villain may be making a move with a draw?

Re: 4 handed 200/400 bellagio hand
 

*shakes head sadly*, everything about this hand shows how utterly inept I'd be at the high levels of poker.

Re: 4 handed 200/400 bellagio hand
 

not sure about turn.

As far as your river plan, I guess it works if the only hands he's 3betting are the ones that beat u. Dunno, I hate folding trips...but if hes only 3betting hands that have u crushed, then fine.

Re: 4 handed 200/400 bellagio hand
 

i dont like the turn 3bet at all. on the button i'd do it but not OOP.


as for your river line, fine. honestly i dont think he's capable of 4 betting a worse 6 on the turn and i dont think he's capable of 3 betting two pair or a tp or an overpair on the river so folding is fine IMO.

Re: 4 handed 200/400 bellagio hand
 

Does he never play this way with 68, 69, 65 or 64?