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betgo 11-25-2005 09:15 PM

Live tournaments suck
 
I played in a $80+20 at the Taj today. They filled it up with 250 entries. There were 11 at the table the whole time I was there.

The first bust out at my table was in level 1: top set versus second set in a raised pot with no straights or flushes on the board.

I was the second bust out at the table. With blinds 150/300/50 (original stacks 5000), I pushed with 3200 in 3rd position with AJo. SB called and said it always happens, he is against AA or KK, so I knew I was in trouble. I lost to queens full. The next hand, I pushed for 675 with 44 and lost to AKo.

I literally didn't win a hand in the tournament. Other than a few limped pots in the blinds, all I played was a limp with A9s, where I completely missed the flop in a 4-way pot that someone miniraised; and I was the 3rd caller of an UTG miniraise with 44 and 3 broadway cards flopped. I didn't get hands, and I wasn't playing junk.

In an online tournament, you would have tons of loose fish busting themselves out. Granted I was a little card dead and had a tight table. However, I don't understand why people think the players in a $100 live tournament are at teh level of a $10 online tournament.

11-25-2005 09:21 PM

Re: Live tournaments suck
 
Variance?

I enjoy online tournaments more most of the time ... but thats just because I find live to be hella boring.

11-25-2005 09:39 PM

Re: Live tournaments suck
 
Never entered a casino tourney. The charity events i get to play at in Ohio are as donkey filled as a 2 dollar on stars. I am usually able to push AA and KK pre flop and get 1 or even two callers with very mediocre hands where online no one would EVER call this puch with those hands.

Just a question? Did you observe your opponents showdowns or just a lot of folds to continution bets? Sometimes the biggest pair you can have live is the one between your legs ;0

Also, did you at least get the opportunity to start to try to get "reads" on opponents? Just asking as that seemed to be one of your goals going in.

Yuv 11-25-2005 09:52 PM

Re: Live tournaments suck
 
I played a few in Vegas this summer. The structure was terrible on all, except the one I played at the horseshoe. I didn't really enjoy it (I enjoyed the cash games alot more and I hate cash games online).

The thing I hated the most is having to deal with bad beats live. I pushed 10-10 from the button after two limpers and the SB(!) called me for 75%(!) of his stack with K9s(!!). a 9 hit the flop and another one on the turn. I wanted to smash my beer bottle on his head. I have alot more sympathy to Hellmuth now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

11-25-2005 10:08 PM

Re: Live tournaments suck
 
$80+$20? That sucks.

11-25-2005 10:15 PM

Re: Live tournaments suck
 
I played an online tourney today... $10 NLHE MTT on Full Tilt. The winner was a guy who went all-in every time he had two suited cards. He did this from the very start. These are the people I constantly see winning online tournaments. That's why I rarely play them anymore.

In the few live tournaments I've played, I usually get busted by someone making the same types of plays. But, for me, in any tournament I play, I often make the mistake of getting all my chips in with the best hand. Nonetheless, the donkey who busts my AA with his 92 (who will usually reraise me all-in preflop.) will usually run into a real player and bust out in live games. So I enjoy live tournaments more because I usually see the best players win them.

mikeymer 11-25-2005 10:52 PM

Re: Live tournaments suck
 
I won the 340 at the taj last time i played... live tournaments are fun.

11-25-2005 11:51 PM

Re: Live tournaments suck
 
This is very true; whenever I have a bad beat put on me, I jump out of my seat, give a quick scream (or some other short burst of emotion, usually pretty weird looking), and I'm ok. In a live tourney, it is STINKING hard to maintain your composure sometimes. I'm now trying to be like Raymer and say "Well, you TRIED to give me all your chips."

-Gross

betgo 11-26-2005 12:05 AM

Re: Live tournaments suck
 
[ QUOTE ]
This is very true; whenever I have a bad beat put on me, I jump out of my seat, give a quick scream (or some other short burst of emotion, usually pretty weird looking), and I'm ok. In a live tourney, it is STINKING hard to maintain your composure sometimes. I'm now trying to be like Raymer and say "Well, you TRIED to give me all your chips."

-Gross

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't get upset by bad beats from fish. I just don't like it when there are no fish to give bad beats.

ansky451 11-26-2005 12:10 AM

Re: Live tournaments suck
 
My experience in live poker tournaments in new york card clubs, is that the level of play is atrocious- it was very hard to find real poker players.


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