30-60 Stars Fold TPGK to River CR? (vomit)
 

Hi guys. I'm new to the MHS LHE forum since I just started playing LHE. Here is a hand I played where I had a tough decision on the river. I think everything else is standard but let me know if I did anything wrong. FWIW I was fairly new to the table but opponent seemed very active and played a good number of pots.

Game is 9-handed. Villiam (UTG) limps, fold to me and I'm dealt KQo CO+1. I raise, all fold to villian who calls.

Flop is K56r, he checks, I bet, he checkraises, I 3-bet, he calls.

Turn is T, he checks, I bet, he calls.

River 4, he checks, I bet, he raises. Pot is $642. Call or fold?

Re: 30-60 Stars Fold TPGK to River CR? (vomit)
 

78 goot

Re: 30-60 Stars Fold TPGK to River CR? (vomit)
 

Fold.

Re: 30-60 Stars Fold TPGK to River CR? (vomit)
 

go ahead and pay it off.

Re: 30-60 Stars Fold TPGK to River CR? (vomit)
 

Fold. You're toast way more often than the odds the pot is laying you.

Re: 30-60 Stars Fold TPGK to River CR? (vomit)
 

Im usually a fan of CRing the draw or gutshot heads up on the flop, but I dunno if I like his move here.

EDIT: well its only not to hot if u are holding a King.

Re: 30-60 Stars Fold TPGK to River CR? (vomit)
 

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go ahead and pay it off.

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That's what I ended up doing. He had K8dd. I still don't know if he was bluff-raising me or value raising me. Anyway even though it worked out I'm not convinced that I will be good here 1 in 11 times which I would need to be in order for this call to be profitable. I'm guessing it's pretty close, especially because I did have him on KJ-KT on the flop moreso than 87, and there is a chance he could always just be representing the made straight on the river.

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This is a clear call. Not even close, IMO.

Another TSP theory which I realize is subject to serious dispute, but it has served me well:

If I am contemplating betting the river with a showdownable hand but will not call a check-raise on said river, then I check the river.

TSP

Re: 30-60 Stars Fold TPGK to River CR? (vomit)
 

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This is a clear call. Not even close, IMO.

Another TSP theory which I realize is subject to serious dispute, but it has served me well:

If I am contemplating betting the river with a showdownable hand but will not call a check-raise on said river, then I check the river.

TSP

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Keep checking, pussy.

Re: 30-60 Stars Fold TPGK to River CR? (vomit)
 

TSP,

A lot of poker authors advise to check on scary boards if you will be extremely uncomfortable calling a raise.