Party $2k backdoor top 2 vs. ggbman.
 

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (10 handed)

Hero ($2562)
MP3 :#A500AF(ggbman)/ ($2912.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, MP3 :#A500AF(ggbman)/ calls $70, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($170) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $130</font>, ggbman calls $130.

Turn: ($430) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">ggbman bets $350</font>, Hero calls $350.

River: ($1130) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $800</font>, ggbman calls $2362.75 (All-In), Hero calls $1212 (All-In).

Re: Party $2k backdoor top 2 vs. ggbman.
 

well, he has nothing or a set. your call. looks like a set.

Re: Party $2k backdoor top 2 vs. ggbman.
 

i would have check/called this rive

Re: Party $2k backdoor top 2 vs. ggbman.
 

you're only beating a PURE bluff dude....given that flop was pretty undrawheavy, he probably isn't bluffing a missed draw; the ONLY thing you beat here is like JT or JQ trying to get you off a loan ace that's pretty unlikely imo

Re: Party $2k backdoor top 2 vs. ggbman.
 

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i would have check/called this river

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I thought about this too and am not sure. I think bet may be better because AJ checks behind a lot.

Re: Party $2k backdoor top 2 vs. ggbman.
 

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i would have check/called this river

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I thought about this too and am not sure. I think bet may be better because AJ checks behind a lot.

[/ QUOTE ]doubt it

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i think if you bet $600 on this river i feel much happier about bet/calling because (a) some hands will raise for value (aces up basically) which you beat and (b) you will be bluff raised far more often by a middle PP.

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i think if you bet $600 on this river i feel much happier about bet/calling because (a) some hands will raise for value (aces up basically) which you beat and (b) you will be bluff raised far more often by a middle PP.

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I agree with this line of reasoning and I think $800 was a poor bet size unless I fold to the all in. What would you think of an even smaller bet on the order of 1/4 or 1/3 pot to induce a bluff raise?

I'm not sure what the optimal river line is, but I think check-calling and betting small and calling an all in are both superior to my line. I also think I should have folded to the all-in because it's virtually impossible for him to have a worse hand.

Re: Party $2k backdoor top 2 vs. ggbman.
 

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i would have check/called this river

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I thought about this too and am not sure. I think bet may be better because AJ checks behind a lot.

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wow. I sincerely doubt this as well zeebo. I think kj is betting this riv a fair % of th time.

Re: Party $2k backdoor top 2 vs. ggbman.
 

this is not a bluff enough of the time.
he is not raising a worse hand for value enough of the time.

foldo baggins.