Watching this years WSOP the final straw.
 

I've been a cash game specialist since I started playing holdem but the donkfest that was this year's WSOP was more than enough to persuade me that the fields are now bad enough to justify the high entry fees.

The 2003 WSOP final table:
Grey, Harrington, Farha, Lester, Singer & Vahedi are all formidible in their own respective ways.

2004 WSOP final table:
Arieh, David Williams, Raymer, Krux all decent to very good.

2005 WSOP final table:
Other than Matusow, Hachem and Barch, jesus what a donkfest. I think with an average stack at this final table you'd have to have give Moneymaker better than average odds of winning much less Raymer. Hachem played well as did Barch & Matusow but other than that it was downright ugly.

Do any of the other MHNL regulars play tournaments with regularlity or is the siren lure of the cash games steady income too much?

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tournys are a joke...too much luck, but juicy as hell.

Yeah everyone there played like crap...I remember some hand where KJo open limped from CO or so? I didn't think anyone that'd make final table woudl still open limp a hand like KJo

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Who open limps at ALL at a final table? wtf?

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but the donkfest that was this year's WSOP was more than enough to persuade me that the fields are now bad enough to justify the high entry fees.
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Exactly..........Aaron Kantor had 7 gold horseshoes up his ass. His maniac semi-bluff style became very predictable. Only luck allowed him to finish as high as he did.

I felt sorry for Black. He played well and yet his monster stack got donked away. Barch played well and Hachem played well. I wasn't that impressed w/ the runner-up. The annoucers said he was the 5th best in his home game. My reaction was, "That High!".

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Who open limps at ALL at a final table? wtf?

[/ QUOTE ]there's probably a case for open limping certains hands in certain spots, not like that though

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Only luck allowed him to finish as high as he did.

[/ QUOTE ]Really? You think? I thought it was 100% skill to make it to final table [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Rounders said why does same people make final table each year

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Do any of the other MHNL regulars play tournaments with regularlity or is the siren lure of the cash games steady income too much?

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I play a mix of both. I'm at 5/10 6-max at the moment and try and play in the Party Super Weekdays whenever I can. I have had a good deal of success in tournaments and without a couple big cashes, I'm not so sure I'm still playing poker. I'm moving out of the parents house in January(thank God), and will likely start playing the big stars and party tournaments whenever I get the chance. Its tough spending time and not earning any money(lost AKs to AQo which would have given me 3X average stack with 180 left in super last week, instead I wasted 3.5 hours and got sucked out on for a whopping $0), but the big payouts are well worth it(I've taken 3rd/1st in supers for 11.6k/32.7k). I also think it helps keep things exciting by switching around games a bit. Otherwise, I feel like a robot.

-Ace

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Goals...

My goal since I started playing live poker was to supplement my income with a few extra bucks. Easily accomplished in 9-18 limit and $300 buy in N.L.

However, as my career progresses... What I'm really looking for now is the big pay-day.

I switched to tournies about a month ago and have had some success. Several small cashes and one 1st for $5,000 ($5 buy-in).

I think game selection all has to do with bankroll and goals you want to obtain.

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Really? You think? I thought it was 100% skill to make it to final table Rounders said why does same people make final table each year

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I can't tell from from your tone whether you are joking but... Yes, even in a deep stacked, slow escalating blinds tournament like the WSOP there is a sick amount of luck involved.

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Who open limps at ALL at a final table? wtf?

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I was just talking about this with a friend a few minutes ago. They showed at least 3 hands that I remember where someone open limped in LP at the final table. I am sure if you dig up the hand-by-hand logs on Cardplayer.com this happened way more often than it should have.

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When the blinds go up in a tourny, I'm raising or folding, period. The only reason I'll limp is if it's a really strange thing to do and it may throw my opponents off. Scratch that, I never do it.