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AA suited 11-02-2005 11:26 AM

$55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 (t1030)
CO (t975)
Button (t875)
SB (t1195)
BB (t1000)
UTG (t1075)
HERO (t925)
UTG+2 (t1095)
MP1 (t1035)
MP2 (t795)

Preflop: HERO is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold</font>, HERO calls t15, 5 folds</font>, Button calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t57.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, HERO bets t50</font>, Button calls t50, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: (t157.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">HERO bets t125</font>, Button calls t125.

River: (t407.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
HERO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t410</font>, HERO ??? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
Final Pot: t1227.50

No reads.

On the river, there's an overcard and a flush possible.

Suggestions on my river play?

Edited by durron597 to fix coloring

MegaBet 11-02-2005 11:27 AM

Re: $55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
Looks like you are beat. Why did you play this hand so softly?

AA suited 11-02-2005 11:28 AM

Re: $55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
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Looks suspiciously like a flush draw. Why did you play this hand so softly?

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softly?! what do you mean?

downtown 11-02-2005 11:31 AM

Re: $55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
I like leading for t250 or so on the river here. If you're raised (from probably a push) you are probably beat and you can lay it down. If you check to him, he can take the pot away from you with air because you appear so weak. It's a scare card for him too, unless he has you killed, in which case he'll probably push.

durron597 11-02-2005 11:31 AM

Re: $55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
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Looks suspiciously like a flush draw. Why did you play this hand so softly?

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softly?! what do you mean?

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I think he wants you to raise preflop.

I think you played the hand fine, anything he may have had got there so fold. What do you beat?

bigt439 11-02-2005 11:48 AM

Re: $55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
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Looks suspiciously like a flush draw. Why did you play this hand so softly?

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softly?! what do you mean?

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I think he wants you to raise preflop.

I think you played the hand fine, anything he may have had got there so fold. What do you beat?

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I agree.

Downtown's blocking bet idea is junk. Check call if you have to put chips in on the river, but a huge blocking bet is really not very good IMO.

downtown 11-02-2005 12:04 PM

Re: $55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
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Looks suspiciously like a flush draw. Why did you play this hand so softly?

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softly?! what do you mean?

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I think he wants you to raise preflop.

I think you played the hand fine, anything he may have had got there so fold. What do you beat?

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I agree.

Downtown's blocking bet idea is junk. Check call if you have to put chips in on the river, but a huge blocking bet is really not very good IMO.

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Please show me where this guy has shown that he has anything besides a T, or even weaker. I don't think playing the river like a scared little girl is any way to make money on this hand. If you call my idea junk, I'm open to listen to yours if you give me a better explanation than "I agree" and "IMO."

Call/Call does not represent overwhelming strength to me. Why does it to you?

11-02-2005 12:49 PM

Re: $55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
A2, A7, A5, A10, or 89 hearts play the same way, and none of the above are "overwhelmingly strong" until the river hits. I think the only possible hand that you are ahead of given this action is 89o or 10x. To put the guy on 10x, however, I would want some sort of read like "bets into weakness" or "plays top pair very passively". The way you played it, and without further reads, I don't think he's bluffing enough on this river to merit a call.

11-02-2005 12:52 PM

Re: $55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
Raising preflop will make things a lot easier. As it is, I think you have to fold.

AA suited 11-02-2005 01:02 PM

Re: $55: Scare card on river. Call his overbet?
 
hm.. river blocking bet of 1/4 pot sound good?

or make it 1/3 pot?


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