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Zygote 11-01-2005 01:31 PM

Re: Semi Bragging and a $200 Reward
 
don't the white pages search only america, but amazon will find authors internationally?

fnord_too 11-01-2005 01:40 PM

Re: Semi Bragging and a $200 Reward
 
There are 1304 axelrods and 927 books with at least a contributing axelrod author, looks like they may be close, and probably the winner for > 1000 members. I don't have the time to go through 900+ books and get a unique count.

to continue the axelrod theme:
Fudenberg 2 out of 16
Tirole 1 out of 0 (:))
Levine - way too many levines
Nash - way too many Nashes

Von Neumann and Morgenstern are dead, so I guess I will leave them out.

Mason Malmuth 11-01-2005 03:01 PM

Re: Semi Bragging and a $200 Reward
 
Hi David:

I think my name might out produce yours. Of course you have to keep in mind that not everyone with my name had it spelt the same way due to the inability of people to speak English when they passed through Ellis Island. Thus Malmud and Malamud are the same name as Malmuth, and the best known writer with our name was Bernard Malamud (who I've been told was a distant cousin).

No wonder you work for me.

Best wishes,
Mason

11-01-2005 05:36 PM

Re: Semi Bragging and a $200 Reward
 
This contest is absolutely impossible. First of all, it doesn't take into consideration variations on spelling, as Mason pointed out. In my family, for example, several people changed their surnames as they had no boys to carry on the name. So, they're family members, but, technically they can be excluded from the contest, and, since they are not authors, that automatically increases the percentage of authors by default. You would, somehow, have to be able to confirm the different variations and confirm that they are related. The contest definitely does not take into consideration women who get married and change their surname. I mean, is every female Sklansky a cousin or is it possible it is a woman that married your cousin? What about those females who married, changed their surnames, and are published under a different name? Are they now to be included in a different family, the one they married into, or are they still considered under their origninal family name? Lastly, it does not take into consideration small presses such as some university presses, who's books are not sold on Amazon. I have translated books (technically making me "published", however, this is a huge debate in the translation field) that you cannot purchase on Amazon, let alone the countless university professors who's books are not available on Amazon. What about authors published in other countries? So, how can this contest be considered fair? Thank you David, I would like a copy of Theory of Poker for my contribution.

CrazyEvan 11-01-2005 05:48 PM

Re: Semi Bragging and a $200 Reward
 
The white pages found 299 Nordquists in the U.S.
I then searched authors named nordquist on amazon ignored duplicate authors. Found 27. So that's not quite 9% of the 299. ( or 6 % of the 1.5 times the white pages number)

Barbara K Nordquist
Bruce O Nordquist
Carol L Nordquist
Craig E Nordquist
Delmar L Nordquist
Elise Dallimore Nordquist
Eric Nordquist
Gerald L Nordquist
Gerda Nordquist
Gullog Nordquist
John Nordquist
Kay Nordquist
Kjell Nordquist
Lowel E Nordquist
Marko Nordquist
Marty Nordquist
Maxine Winsor Nordquist
Myron H Nordquist
Niklas Nordquist
Olga Nordquist
Phillip A Nordquist
Richard F Nordquist
Sven Nordquist
Shari Nordquist
Ted A Nordquist
Walter S Nordquist
Dr. William D. Nordquist

It should be noted that I don't myself live in the U.S. but I still wanted to try the experiment, and it wouldn't work in canada because there's only... 120 Nordquists in Canada.

11-01-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Semi Bragging and a $200 Reward
 
[ QUOTE ]
For the most part you are wrong. Of course if there were some name with thirty members that had ten authors, they automatically win. In fact six for thirty could be called more impressive. But not four out of thity or three out of fiteen or two out of ten. Can't you see that?


[/ QUOTE ]
But you're bragging about the high percentage of family members that are published authors. So, is it not the percentage that counts then? Two of ten is still 20%, which beats 11-15%.
This contest if further complicated by how incredibly difficult it is to get quality data. A search on webpages.com for the surname Aksyonv lists four published and 1 unpublished. Since Vassily Aksyonov is, without a doubt, a published author, that means 1/5 for 20%. However, there are a hell of a lot more Aksyonovs in the U.S.
And moreover, this is a country of 300 million people. Are you honestly saying that there could be a family who only makes up .000000033 percent of the population, yet, 20% of that family has contributed to the literary cannon, and that is not impressive?

David Sklansky 11-01-2005 07:07 PM

Contest Over
 
It's closer than I thought so even if I'm right its not quite as impressive as I hoped.

11-01-2005 07:13 PM

Re: Contest Over
 
So, what's that mean? None of us get a free book for our efforts and contribution? That's analogous to taking it from your cell-mate and not even getting a reach around. I feel so unfulfilled.

kem 11-01-2005 10:24 PM

Re: Contest Over
 
[ QUOTE ]
It's closer than I thought so even if I'm right its not quite as impressive as I hoped.

[/ QUOTE ]

Sounds like I win??

CrazyEvan 11-01-2005 11:32 PM

Re: Semi Bragging and a $200 Reward
 
I have determined that the whitepages (.com) isn't the most
reliable way to be going about this. Also I now have read that it only displayed the FIRST 299 of the total found ( which it didn't say) and it also finds 27 sklansky's.

okay now ancestry.com gave me a much higher number.

This is the number of Nordquist's
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...n/60a58a10.jpg

compared to the staggeringly low ( by comparison ) Sklansky's

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...skycropped.jpg


* note that these are census results from 1920


P.S. ther were 7 more Sklansky's than Malmuths back in those days.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...n/a5f58867.jpg

just something new and interesting in the post, since alot of you have given up.


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