Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

Anyone fold here? The re-raisor was new to the table. No read.

***** Hand History for Game 3163520445 *****
NL Texas Hold'em Trny:18082189 Level:11 Blinds (400/800) - Thursday, December 08, 00:11:42 EDT 2005
Table Multi-Table(535607) Table #11 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: rayyoung2 ( $4060 )
Seat 2: dirkpitt ( $5620 )
Seat 3: Binger15 ( $12837 )
Seat 4: tarheel427 ( $24700 )
Seat 6: illegit ( $11376 )
Seat 7: realfatstakz ( $6432 )
Seat 9: DrDiablo2005 ( $8380 )
Seat 10: mafioli0000 ( $12062 )
Seat 5: W_W_F ( $14284 )
Seat 8: ilushin2 ( $18071 )
Trny:18082189 Level:11
Blinds (400/800)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to illegit [ Qh Qd ]
Binger15 folds.
tarheel427 folds.
W_W_F folds.
illegit raises [2100].
realfatstakz calls [2100].
ilushin2 raises [6500].
DrDiablo2005 folds.
mafioli0000 folds.
rayyoung2 is all-In [3660]
dirkpitt folds.
illegit ?????????????????????????

Re: Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

I would push. I need a pretty good read to fold QQ here.

Re: Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

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DrDiablo2005

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i don't know, but this guy has a seriously good 2+2 name.

Re: Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

he raised, so you are clearly behind to AA or maaaaaaybe KK there. Muck it and don't risk your tournament life preflop. Find better edges w/ your 11x stack.

oh wait, i just saw that he can't bust you....yeah, go ahead and call since you are still in the tourney if you lose. he probably has AK.

Re: Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

If you were deeper, and had a significant read, I could find a fold here. In this spot, I'd never fold. (push)

Re: Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

I'm pushing here...it's possible but not likely that he's making a squeeze play...i doubt it but it's possible...your M is <10...gonna need to start making a move...excellent chance here to get some chips with the 3rd best starting hand

Re: Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

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he raised, so you are clearly behind to AA or maaaaaaybe KK there. Muck it and don't risk your tournament life preflop. Find better edges w/ your 11x stack.

oh wait, i just saw that he can't bust you....yeah, go ahead and call since you are still in the tourney if you lose. he probably has AK.

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POTY, thanks for the great laugh soss [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

Without any read in him I don't think you could here. There are a lot of hands he might be reraising that you are ahead of or at least a coinflip against. Unless you have reads on him that he would only reraise with AA or KK you should not fold.

Re: Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

Somewhat read dependant. With TT-JJ and AK, I think villain would be inclined to either push preflop or just call, not reraise another 4400, which is dying for a call. I think you can fold this. If you think villain will do this w/ TT-JJ, AK, or a lesser hand, by all means, push. Still, I hate folding QQ preflop too, but if I had a clear head, I would.

Re: Folding QQ preflop for me is like folding KK preflop for you
 

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I'm pushing here...it's possible but not likely that he's making a squeeze play...i doubt it but it's possible...your M is <10...gonna need to start making a move...excellent chance here to get some chips with the 3rd best starting hand

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yeah, you are right. you have the 3rd best starting hand of the 3 remaining players. obviously.