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Kirkrrr 12-06-2005 03:43 AM

400NL: I\'m seriously confused here.
 
Table is relatively aggressive but I've been running ridiculously bad and they probably view me as steaming (maybe). Villain is a relative unknown. I check-called the flop to see if he has AK - on the turn I knew he didn't. Then he wakes up... wtf [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($1146.05)
UTG ($548.20)
UTG+1 ($64)
MP1 ($606.25)
MP2 ($404.70)
CO ($338.25)
Button ($380.95)
SB ($359.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $8.

Flop: ($26) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($42) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $64</font>, Hero calls $36.

River: ($170) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $88, Hero calls.


My main question is the turn. What am I supposed to make of it?

Kirk

tdomeski 12-06-2005 03:55 AM

Re: 400NL: I\'m seriously confused here.
 
If you are going to c/r the turn make it $58 to go. That way you can easily fold when he comes back over the top of you.

As played I probably just fold turn. If I saw the river the way you saw it I wouldn't call his bet.

Lucky 12-06-2005 04:21 AM

Re: 400NL: I\'m seriously confused here.
 
fold turn. He's "tricked" you into playing a bigger pot, now he's moving in for kill. Looks like bad player with monster; his shaking hands can barely work mouse.

12-06-2005 04:53 AM

Re: 400NL: I\'m seriously confused here.
 
throw this away on the turn. I can't think of a hand played like that doesn't have AQ beat.

warlockjd 12-06-2005 05:27 AM

Re: 400NL: I\'m seriously confused here.
 
yeah, 99 here horribly played methinks

ansky451 12-06-2005 05:39 AM

Re: 400NL: I\'m seriously confused here.
 
I can think of nothing you are beating by the turn or river action.

Kirkrrr 12-06-2005 08:33 AM

RESULTS
 
Okay, so the concensus seems to be to muck on the turn. I agree. I probably was steaming, otherwise I would've done that. He had a set, of course. But I saw a weak bet and, of course, I absolutely couldn't resist. And then couldn't fold, for whatever reason (read: tilt).

Kirk

Kirkrrr 12-06-2005 08:34 AM

Re: 400NL: I\'m seriously confused here.
 
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I can't think of a hand played like that doesn't have AQ beat.

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In retrospect, neither can I.

Ojo_Rojo 12-06-2005 09:53 AM

Re: 400NL: I\'m seriously confused here.
 
Why didnt you bet ($35-$40) on the turn? Then I would fold to any raise.

Cheaper than check-raising [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

Ojo_Rojo

Ghazban 12-06-2005 10:30 AM

Re: 400NL: I\'m seriously confused here.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I can't think of a hand played like that doesn't have AQ beat.

[/ QUOTE ]

In retrospect, neither can I.

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Ax of hearts will be played exactly this way by a lot of players. They bet smallish to price their draw in case their ace is no good by itself but take the checkraise personally and try to push you out.

I'd rather lead the turn (intending on folding to a raise) and check/call or check/fold the river depending on read.


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