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aba20 12-08-2005 07:01 AM

In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
Please be constructive with your criticism of this hand. I would appreciate specific advice on my river check call.

Villian is a huge LAG, calling pot size bets with any type of draw (ie gutshots, overcards, backdoor flush draws). Villian got $2000 in the middle of sometype of overpair on a 752 rainbow board with only one preflop raise. He has no problem putting money into the pot on any sort of draw and will bluff if he sees an oppurtunity. Villian has $3770 and hero covers.

Preflop: UTG (Villian limps), MP+2 limps, Button raises to $20, SB(Hero) is delt A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and raises to $120, UTG calls and everyone else folds.

Pot: $270

Flop: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets $400 villian calls

Pot $1070

Turn: T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

hero bets $1000, villian calls

Pot $3070

river: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero checks planning on calling villians remaining $2250 if bet.

Edit: Feel free to move this to medium stakes if it would be better suited. But I would like some responses from posters in this forum.

durrrr 12-08-2005 07:58 AM

Re: In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
what stakes? 2/4? 3/6?

aba20 12-08-2005 08:12 AM

Re: In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
$3/$5 blinds, live at the players club in ventura CA. Was in my orignal post but got erased when I hit the back button and I forgot to put it in again.

durrrr 12-08-2005 08:19 AM

Re: In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
does villain value bet thin? would he value push KK? Would he bluff push 99? Does he sloplay (often?)?

This is an extremely player dependent spot that unfortunately you are best suited to deal w/ (whether or not to call a big river bluff). If your reads are correct i think i like a turn c/r allin more (or turn chk/call river chk/call).

youngin20 12-08-2005 08:35 AM

Re: In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
he limped, so I see JJ, if he really is overvalueing an overpair this much. but i think he has a set here most of the time.

youngin20 12-08-2005 08:35 AM

Re: In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
or AsKs/KsQs some other broadway flush

aba20 12-08-2005 08:49 AM

Re: In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
I don't think he calls the turn with JJ. Maybe if he had the jack of spades. I felt like he was drawing at me with the lone A of spades. He knew I had a huge hand.

aba20 12-08-2005 08:51 AM

Re: In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
You are right I should have check raised the turn all-in or check called the river if he checked the turn behind me. I think he puts me on AA and wouldn't push KK or another pair. I thought he had some type of draw, but my read could have been off.

fsuplayer 12-08-2005 08:53 AM

Re: In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
is your hand really that transparent to this guy? you can ONLY have AA and no other pair here?

sounds like a metagame issue as well then.

aba20 12-08-2005 08:55 AM

Re: In real deep ( over 750 BB)
 
Villain views me as a tight TAG, but the button who raised was extremely tight with a short stack, so that narrowed my range further to most likely a big pair.


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