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JMa 11-18-2005 12:43 PM

10/20 Aces
 
No real reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (8 handed) converter

SB ($1950)
Hero ($2031.50)
UTG ($1785)
UTG+1 ($2833.33)
MP1 ($2110)
MP2 ($2886.34)
CO ($1900)
Button ($1735)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $80</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $80, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $240</font>, UTG+1 calls $180, Button folds.

Flop: ($610) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Hero bets $500, Villain moves in for $1200 more, Hero? <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>


I get like 2.5-1 on the call. Call or fold!?

11-18-2005 12:45 PM

Re: 10/20 Aces
 
I would probably fold.

Put villian on a set.

captZEEbo1 11-18-2005 12:57 PM

Re: 10/20 Aces
 
rereaise more preflop, and I think you're committed now.

Maulik 11-18-2005 01:02 PM

Re: 10/20 Aces
 
I think you should call here and hope to hit a gutshot, he's probably hoping for the same with a pair + gutshot.

arod15 11-18-2005 01:07 PM

Re: 10/20 Aces
 
Make it 350 to go PF, if not more. I dont think your PF raise was nearly enough considering someone cold called the original raiser. As for the flop, given your line I think the correct answer is to fold. There are very few hands you beat here and 2.5 to 1 is not nearly enough.

emil3000 11-18-2005 01:07 PM

Re: 10/20 Aces
 
59,400 games 0.016 secs 3,712,500 games/sec

Board: Ks Jh Td
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 75.7273 % [ 00.70 00.05 ] { AA-KK, JJ-TT }
Hand 2: 24.2727 % [ 00.19 00.05 ] { AA }


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So if you think he coud have something else just a small % of the time you should call. I would think so.

flawless_victory 11-18-2005 01:13 PM

Re: 10/20 Aces
 
you did it to yourself dude.

SunOfBeach 11-18-2005 01:16 PM

Re: 10/20 Aces
 
i think you have to raise more preflop here. im thinking raise pot 350.

JMa 11-18-2005 01:22 PM

Re: 10/20 Aces
 
yeah RR more preflop is the key here i think. Maybe I should check-call this down all the way.

SunOfBeach 11-18-2005 01:33 PM

Re: 10/20 Aces
 
[ QUOTE ]
So if you think he coud have something else just a small % of the time you should call. I would think so.

[/ QUOTE ]

i started off being not sure this is true. but then i checked and it seems like it is:

there's 2810 in the pot, and he has to call 1200 more. that's ~ 2.3:1 odds. you have him as a 3:1 dog to the logical hand range he has. if hes on something else 20% of the time, and would win with that something else only 30% of the time he has it (both assumptions seem reasonable as a starting point), then that means 80% of the time we win 25% of the time (your post - gives us pot equity of 20%), and 20% of the time we win 70% of the time (gives us pot equity of 14%). this would be a total shot of 34%. this would give us the odds to call easily as 2.3 &gt; 64/34.


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