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Gyre 12-05-2005 03:46 PM

QQ vs turnraise with 3-flush and pair on the bord.
 
I need to go to showdown here againt unknown right? He's 45/8/1.8 over about 120 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, MP folds.

Turn: (5.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB

POKhER 12-05-2005 03:47 PM

Re: QQ vs turnraise with 3-flush and pair on the bord.
 
You're behind Trips and a flush.

Whats his WTSD/W$SD ? When he bets the river i've got a real bad feeling, i'd be checking every start i had on him and hovering over fold.

12-05-2005 03:51 PM

Re: QQ vs turnraise with 3-flush and pair on the bord.
 
It's hard to fold an overpair, but there are a lot of hands that beat you, most likely being the classic turn-donked trips. We do have 4 outs to the boat, and there's a chance we're ahead. I would probably suck and call the river bet, even though I think it is not a good idea.

12-05-2005 03:52 PM

Re: QQ vs turnraise with 3-flush and pair on the bord.
 
Let it go. Be a better man than I.

You're probably not good enough times here, and even if it's *just* the flush, you only have 4 outs max, and very possibly only 2.

MrWookie47 12-05-2005 03:52 PM

Re: QQ vs turnraise with 3-flush and pair on the bord.
 
The pot isn't all that big. You should probably fold unless you have a real read. After 120 hands, you should have a few notes about his postflop play rather than just some lousy stats.

jba 12-05-2005 03:56 PM

Re: QQ vs turnraise with 3-flush and pair on the bord.
 
huh. I'd call down here. not sure if that's right.

if you're going to fold it's gotta be the turn though right?

aargh57 12-05-2005 03:58 PM

Re: QQ vs turnraise with 3-flush and pair on the bord.
 
At first I was going to say I like it but that 5 is a horrible card to come to you for the bb. You've got a straight, flush and full house all possible. I think that getting c/r'd here can't be good for you. He would have to be awfully creative to bluff that way even with the A of hearts.

milesdyson 12-05-2005 04:05 PM

Re: QQ vs turnraise with 3-flush and pair on the bord.
 
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if you're going to fold it's gotta be the turn though right?

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yeah, and i would fold this

Gyre 12-05-2005 04:59 PM

Re: QQ vs turnraise with 3-flush and pair on the bord.
 
Guess I'll have to learn to fold this kind a hands then. I just hate folding over pairs.

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The pot isn't all that big. You should probably fold unless you have a real read. After 120 hands, you should have a few notes about his postflop play rather than just some lousy stats.

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I would if the hands weren't from mining, just got to the table.


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