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Wynton 11-17-2005 03:11 PM

Re: Open Raise (Definitive Poll)
 
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it would be great to pool our results with these hands to see howw profitable they arent.

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This is a good idea, but if we do this, I think that we need to mention what levels we play.

Danenania 11-17-2005 03:13 PM

Re: Open Raise (Definitive Poll)
 
I raise all but KTo, A9o, T9s, 55, and 44 at least 90%. T9s probably 75%. KTo, A9o, and 55 maybe 25%. 44 never.

surfdoc 11-17-2005 03:15 PM

Re: Open Raise (Definitive Poll)
 
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it would be great to pool our results with these hands to see howw profitable they arent.

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I think this is a good idea. The only problem is we would have to seperate out those players who routinely raise a hand like KTo utg from the rest who only raise this hand situationally to get any meaningful data.

TStoneMBD 11-17-2005 03:15 PM

Re: Open Raise (Definitive Poll)
 
youre one of these guys who values QJo more than KTo?

wdeadwyler 11-17-2005 03:16 PM

Folding pairs shorthanded
 
Why would you fold a pair like 44 shorthanded UTG instead of limping. Is it really -EV to limp call a raise to flop a set?

antifish225 11-17-2005 03:17 PM

Re: Open Raise (Definitive Poll)
 
Maybe it is just me, however in my PT database I am showing a profit with 33 and higher raising from UTG (over 100K hands 5/10) - anyone else still raising with these small pairs out of position with sucsess?

TStoneMBD 11-17-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Open Raise (Definitive Poll)
 
sample size = too small

Victor 11-17-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Folding pairs shorthanded
 
do you coldcall raises with 44?

krishanleong 11-17-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Folding pairs shorthanded
 
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Why would you fold a pair like 44 shorthanded UTG instead of limping. Is it really -EV to limp call a raise to flop a set?

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It seems most people think so (me included).

Krishan

brazilio 11-17-2005 03:18 PM

Re: Folding pairs shorthanded
 
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Why would you fold a pair like 44 shorthanded UTG instead of limping. Is it really -EV to limp call a raise to flop a set?

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no, it's -EV to limp, get iso/value raised, have the blinds fold, and have to fold 44 on an A79 board when he's got KQ.


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