overpair question... basic?
 

standard 2k NL table, PP. Hero (2000) has KK.

Raises in MP to 80. Shorty (700) calls and SB (covers) comes along. 220 in the pot.

Flop J 8 3 2 cubs.

SB checks to me, i bet 200 shorty calls, SB goes all in...

My move?

what does shorty have? is this too generic?

I figured i'd do this to make up for my other non content post.

Re: overpair question... basic?
 

any reads on SB/villain? Has he been aggressive, playing a lot of hands etc ?

Re: overpair question... basic?
 

i guess i wanted to consider the situation in a vaccum.. not like thats how it should be considered. i felt like a fold was in order (barring reads really) because either he has a big draw - A high club or a set... no? i doubt he check raises A J or K J etc all in...

Re: overpair question... basic?
 

is the J a club? if not, AJcc may be his most likely holding. from your actions, there is no reason for villain to believe you DON'T have an overpair, so ask yourself: "why does he want to shove here?" you have to assume that he assumes you might call with a hand like AcA.

so why does he want his money in the center? because he is either way ahead, or has a monster draw like AJcc and wants it all in the pot asap, along with fold equity. this is all assuming he isn't dominique the donkey from that ol' timey christmas song, believing AJ is the beast from the east.

In general, when i'm in these spots I just ponder three questions:

1. what does he think i have?
2. what does he think i'll do with what he thinks i have?
3. does he have the slightest idea what's going on right now?
(not necessarily in that order)

Re: overpair question... basic?
 

Shorty's hand is irrelevant here, if it were just you vs. shorty you'd there would be no decision to make; it would all go in on the turn.

If you want to be a nit you can fold to the real stack's allin, shorty will call, and you'll see both hands.

But what fun is that?