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MisterNatural 11-17-2005 03:25 AM

flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
SB is slightly loose passive, he's got something, atleast 2 pair, but I'm not worried about him because he's so short. MP3 is 76/19 and wont lay a crap hand down when obviously beat if you pot size bet him. Button is 37/15 - laggy and terrible. He'd probably be min rr'ing if MP3 hadn't raised. How do you get the most from the two lags with money left on the turn?



No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP3 ($68.80)
CO ($14.65)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($6.70)
Hero ($32.80)
UTG ($13.30)
UTG+1 ($50.25)
MP1 ($83.77)
MP2 ($22.35)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.8</font>, Hero calls $0.80, MP1 calls $0.80, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $1.6</font>, Button calls $1.60, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $4.4</font>, Hero calls $3.60, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $2.80, Button calls $2.80.

Turn: ($19.65) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2.05 All In</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>

11-17-2005 03:33 AM

Re: flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
you have to bet enough to make it incorrect for a flush draw to call. bet at least $10 on top, preferably more if you think the LAGs will call.

MisterNatural 11-17-2005 04:10 AM

Re: flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
One or both would've called $10 so that seems good. Is it a mistake to push and try to take this nice pot now since there are 2 flush draws, a str8 draw, and a possible set trying to fill up?

scrapperdog 11-17-2005 04:40 AM

Re: flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
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you have to bet enough to make it incorrect for a flush draw to call. bet at least $10 on top, preferably more if you think the LAGs will call.

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Good answer.

scrapperdog 11-17-2005 04:45 AM

Re: flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
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One or both would've called $10 so that seems good. Is it a mistake to push and try to take this nice pot now since there are 2 flush draws, a str8 draw, and a possible set trying to fill up?

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Nothing wrong with that.

crosse91 11-17-2005 04:49 AM

Re: flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
if i'm not pushing flop i'm pushing turn. And i'll still get called on turn most likely.

yvesaint 11-17-2005 05:46 AM

Re: flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
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One or both would've called $10 so that seems good. Is it a mistake to push and try to take this nice pot now since there are 2 flush draws, a str8 draw, and a possible set trying to fill up?

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never a mistake to push that turn

MisterNatural 11-17-2005 05:47 AM

Re: flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
b]Turn:[/b] ($19.65) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $2.05</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises all in to $28.15</font>, MP3 folds, Button folds.

River: ($22.65) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $22.65

SB has 6s 8d (straight, eight high).
Hero has 3s 6d (straight, seven high).
Outcome: SB wins $22.65.

So basically, I'm only out like $8, but afterwards I felt like i'd done something wrong.

11-17-2005 05:47 AM

Re: flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
i think he hit trips, or has 2 pair, at those limits its impossible to get them off 2 pair
so the over betting here is to stop the flush, im pushing the turn....and they will probably call

had a str8 on the flop the other day at this .10nl .... on the river i bet 2$ and the guy called me with A8, no str8 draw no A no 8 on the board....called 2 dollars with A high

so they might just be trying to bluff....

srm80 11-17-2005 05:51 AM

Re: flopped str8 with 2 lags and a shortstack battling it out
 
you flopped a straight against two LAG players? Ram and jam that pot


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