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Zygote 11-07-2005 04:02 PM

Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 
Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies

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A = Australia
C = Canada
D = Denmark
E = Great Britain
F = France
G = Germany
H = Holland
I = Ireland
J = Japan
L = Switzerland
N = Norway
P = Portugal
R = Austria
S = Spain
T = Italy
U = United States
W = Sweden
Z = New Zealand

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ZeeJustin 11-07-2005 04:29 PM

Re: Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 
Japan is awesome!

11-07-2005 05:47 PM

Re: Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 
Most interesting article. Thanks for the post.

Unfortunately the people who would benefit the most from reading it and understanding the implications, are the most likely to ignore it.

TomCollins 11-07-2005 06:25 PM

Re: Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 
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Japan is awesome!

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Unfortunately they don't show the correlation between not being religious and subway molestations!

imported_luckyme 11-07-2005 06:51 PM

Re: Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 
I suspect you're right MidGe that it won't be useful to those especially needing to give it some thought..

"A country comprised of true Christians would be mostly void of such things as sexually transmitted diseases, murder, thievery, drunken fathers who beat their wives and children,..."

..from a religious website discussing this paper. The bold true was theirs. I always enjoy the "no Real Scotsman" denial.

For the most part, people bring their morality to their religion, not the other way around. The social ills of the USA wouldn't be cured if it became predominately secular in the near future. What happens in other countries, is that problems are looked at more realistically and better solutions are found, unhampered by religious theories of what works. ( sex ed issues for example).

luckyme

chezlaw 11-07-2005 07:41 PM

Re: Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 
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For the most part, people bring their morality to their religion, not the other way around.

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This is my nomination for the most important religous/morality related statement on this forum.

chez

11-07-2005 08:11 PM

Re: Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 
Subway molestations are way more fun than murder

RJT 11-07-2005 08:45 PM

Re: Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 

There is nothing in this study that suggests a cause and effect relationship. The author seems to have a suspicion and tries to fit the data to that hunch. Even he admits that his study needs further research to see if it is more than fluff (obviously my words, not his.)

Borodog 11-07-2005 08:47 PM

Re: Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 
Just thought this needed mentioning:

Correlation does not imply causation.

However, it does appear that we can say all of that prayin' and church-goin' doesn't seem to be doing much good.

Although, the faithful could always just point to the decadence of our society and claim that if it weren't for all the prayin' and churchgoin', we'd be off the charts.

RJT 11-07-2005 08:48 PM

Re: Correlations of Societal Health with Religiosity & Secularism
 
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For the most part, people bring their morality to their religion, not the other way around.

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This is my nomination for the most important religous/morality related statement on this forum.

chez

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I agree it is a good one, chez. You have a keen eye. As is luckyme sharp for writing it.

RJT


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