100NL : KK, can I get away from this flop with overpair?
 

Yet another situation with KK and a side pot.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, button goes all in on short stack for $20
Hero just calls $19 in BB. UTG calls $17.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

Pot about $60, we each have about $80 left.
Hero pushes allin. UTG calls.


I know some want a raise preflop to isolate the shortie allin, but even without a raise it's a big call from UTG, and if I don't raise I can get paid by hands like QQ. If an ace flops I'm probably losing anyway.

Anyway, this flop is scary; is there any way I could get more information and possibly fold if beat? It's a dry side pot at this point, so maybe we'd check it down without big hands?

Re: 100NL : KK, can I get away from this flop with overpair?
 

this is fine. he'll call with plenty of stuff you beat on the flop and theres no bet you can make an then fold to a push.

paul

Re: 100NL : KK, can I get away from this flop with overpair?
 

i think its a hard call..there are several hands u are behind on... lets look at possible calls preflop...he may call preflop with 10,10...bad but possible....JJ-possbile.....88-possible but not prob..... i would put him on AKs or AKs with that push and surely spades... so if he has AKs that would give him 14 outs... with two cards to come i beleive u are an underdog...but then again i might call if put in that spot depending on if i have acumulated any info on the guy