Quick cold call question
 

Hi.

(Game limit 0.5/1.)
Do you think it's ok to cold call on the button with T9s when 2 players already has called the PFR and sb, bb and UTG yet to act?

I know the hand is ok to call another bet to a raiser behind you and about 4-5 players seeing the flop, but is it ok to cold call with it in this situation (even if you know 3-5 players will see the flop)?

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I might think about it. Depends on how aggressive the BB and UTG are though.

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Were there any limpers in front of the raise? Are the blinds likely to make it 3 bets or more?

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Were there any limpers in front of the raise? Are the blinds likely to make it 3 bets or more?

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Yes, as I wrote "sb, bb and UTG yet to act" [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] , so UTG has called and then the two cold callers behind the PFR'er.

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I might think about it. Depends on how aggressive the BB and UTG are though.

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Most players where 30-40% to see flop, most cold called to much preflop (seen today in PT).

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i think its close, probably not a huge mistake either folding or cc'ing. with average players in the blinds i think youre getting between 4-1 or 4.5-1 on your call.

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Thanks for your input. 7 players eventually saw the flop.

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I think this is largely dependent on your assesment of yourself postflop, and your opponents postflop. Will they give you action if you get a flop you like. And are you able to laydown a pair of T's even if it's top pair if the action gets ugly. That's where this decision needs to be made. Will they lose enough postflop if you hit, and you lose the minimum postflop if you hit a marginal hand.

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clarkmeister wrote a post way back when about things small stakes players should unlearn and coldcalling with suited connectors was one of them.

funny thing is, the more experience you gain and the better you get, you start to unlearn what you unlearned and start coldcalling with suited connectors again.

benefits
1) multiway hand in a decent sized multiway pot
2) the button
3) you supposedly play better postflop than your opposition

negatives
1) cuts your implied odds in half when you coldcall
2) gonna get expensive

the better you get, the more you can get the positives to outweigh the negatives, but at this stage i don't think it'd be bad to fold.

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I think this is largely dependent on your assesment of yourself postflop, and your opponents postflop. Will they give you action if you get a flop you like. And are you able to laydown a pair of T's even if it's top pair if the action gets ugly. That's where this decision needs to be made. Will they lose enough postflop if you hit, and you lose the minimum postflop if you hit a marginal hand.

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I'm pretty OK postflop, though SSH makes me call a bit more than I used to do, but yes I know top pair isn't that good when there is a bet and a raise as an example.

But I'm sure I would get good action if I hit the flopp good.