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wheelz 10-05-2005 12:15 AM

A6o vs 2+2er
 
villain posts in hush, i don't have any stats on him but that should be all you need to know.

he may or may not know me.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

nervous 10-05-2005 12:35 AM

Re: A6o vs 2+2er
 
Fold River?

Lmn55d 10-05-2005 12:37 AM

Re: A6o vs 2+2er
 
hmm, I'm gonna say fold the river. When he checkraises the flop lets say his range is a straight draw, flush draw or pair+. His check on the turn could mean a few things. He could be on a flush draw and not want to be raised. He could have a pair of 6s and be check/folding. He could have a pair of Ts or Qs and not want to be semibluffed and is trying to induce a bluff. Or he could be going for a checkraise.

When you call the river, it seems that you are hoping he was on a flush draw, right? I cant see him betting a pair of 6s there. The thing is I think a flush draw follows through on that turn a lot and might not bluff the river. I don't think you're good 1 in 6.25, but I'm not positive.

w_alloy 10-05-2005 12:42 AM

Re: A6o vs 2+2er
 
I like it. I think that the flop c/r and turn check is often times a draw that wants to make sure no more then 1 bet goes in on the turn, and also is hoping it can get a free card from someone fearing a turn c/r.

I think he has a hand like 89 or clubs often enough to call the river, but not often enough to bet the turn.

Lmn55d 10-05-2005 12:45 AM

Re: A6o vs 2+2er
 
I'm not sure a solid player would checkraise this flop with 89 too often. At least I wouldn't.

EDIT: I just saw 89 is double gutted. I change my mind about a checkraise being unlikely.

wheelz 10-05-2005 11:44 AM

Re: A6o vs 2+2er
 
is this an easy fold or close call or..?

what do you think hock [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

stigmata 10-05-2005 11:54 AM

Re: A6o vs 2+2er
 
I think you can fold the river, there are so few hands you actually beat here. Straight draws either made it or paired. Even most of the flush draw hands will also be paired -- you have the ace.

wheelz 10-05-2005 12:02 PM

Re: A6o vs 2+2er
 
why would he check the turn though? if he had J9 and got there he's not checking the turn. if he had KJ and paired the K he's not checking the turn. 89 didn't get there. AJ 3-bets preflop. i do have the ace of clubs, but what hands checkraise the flop then check the turn? would he really do that with a queen? a 10 maybe. the only possible flush draw he could've paired is the king high flush draw, and again, he's not checking the turn when he hits the king.

krishanleong 10-05-2005 12:04 PM

Re: A6o vs 2+2er
 
I call. I don't even think about it that much. Probably because you have a pair.

Krishan - 102

stigmata 10-05-2005 12:05 PM

Re: A6o vs 2+2er
 
I'm thinking it's either FPS (fluffed CR) with a made hand, or he got scared of the King with his pair of Queens or Tens and has gone into call down mode.


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