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Jman28 12-24-2005 04:46 AM

Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
First orbit at the table.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

SB ($2165)
BB ($2000)
UTG ($1134)
UTG+1 ($4703)
MP1 ($3075)
MP2 ($3619)
CO ($1980)
Hero ($1950)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $70</font>, SB (poster) calls $60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($160) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $200</font>, Hero calls $200.

Turn: ($560) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $900</font>, Hero...

snowbank 12-24-2005 04:56 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
Why no raise on the flop?

kagame 12-24-2005 04:58 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
why are you cold calling the flop? raising would make the hand much easier to play, say to 600. i dont mind your flop play if done for a strategic purpose but this seems simply weak passive

actually, my first thought is that at least he didnt check raise the turn, because then youd probably be pot stuck and very often behind, with him leading again you have some options. with a read on the player's style you could often dump it here and wait for a better spot.

without a read and having just called the flop i dont see how you can fold the turn, there are too many hands that stab at this sort of board, or he even could think he has the best hand with a weaker hand like tptk or JJ, just stick it in there

Jman28 12-24-2005 05:03 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
If I raise flop, what hand is calling me that I beat? Even if JJ, AT and JT would've called a raise, they are drawing very slim OOP. (EDIT: meaning it's not THAT bad to give them free cards)

I'm really confused because I never have seen a line like the villain's here. Usually an overbet has meant significant strength in the games I've played. I thought T9 seemed likely.

captZEEbo1 12-24-2005 06:13 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
somethign with clubs AT or QJ or whatever, I say shove !

AZK 12-24-2005 06:30 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
or a slowplayed overpair. (preflop)

flawless_victory 12-24-2005 06:44 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
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somethign with clubs AT or QJ or whatever, I say shove !

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agreed.
stop thinking so hard and move in baby.

-Skeme- 12-24-2005 09:22 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
Are talking shoving turn or flop?

Yeti 12-24-2005 09:22 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
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somethign with clubs AT or QJ or whatever, I say shove !

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agreed.
stop thinking so hard and move in baby.

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Yeti 12-24-2005 09:22 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
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Are talking shoving turn or flop?

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Turn.

-Skeme- 12-24-2005 09:29 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
I swear we're up against Aces here.

thabadguy 12-24-2005 12:01 PM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
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I swear we're up against Aces here.

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-Skeme- 12-24-2005 01:03 PM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
I actually asked him for a gun.. to shoot you with.. cause you are a turd.

12-24-2005 02:56 PM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
I'd call flop, fold turn. Unless the player is really loose/bad or you think he's trying to defend his blind or something he clearly wants to get a 2k stack in here and I hardly ever see an overpair take down a 4k pot unless it's against another big pair, which you're probably on the smaller end of if this is the case. The big overbet is strange.. not really sure what he'd do this with I guess maybe JQ thinking his pair outs are good too but other than that there's no draws out there, you're probably way behind

kagame 12-25-2005 07:54 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
does this stuff actually work?

12-25-2005 08:06 AM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
nh.

JooWish622 12-29-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
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I swear we're up against Aces here.
sounds like a hellmuth



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Hope you asked Santa for this :-
http://shop.zensoaps.com/scripts/pro...p?idproduct=60

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haha that's a burn.

JooWish622 12-29-2005 05:52 PM

Re: Overpair. WTBalls is he doing? 10/20
 
fold flop


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