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jason_t 12-29-2005 02:40 PM

15/30 AJ
 
UTG is 40/14/1.2 and the BB is 16.2/9.4/1.6.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: I am SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, I call, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
I check, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>, BB folds, UTG calls.

Turn: (5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">I bet</font>

Okay? What's our plan on the river if villain calls?

BigEndian 12-29-2005 02:50 PM

Re: 15/30 AJ
 
I would check the river if called on the turn (and you don't make a hand of-course). And I would fold if he bets.

- Jim

highlife 12-29-2005 02:52 PM

Re: 15/30 AJ
 
if he is calling the turn, the only hand he would fold on the river is AQ. check river unimproved.

BigEndian 12-29-2005 02:54 PM

Re: 15/30 AJ
 
Villains range is a lot bigger than AQo. The only real merit I see to betting the river is to prevent being pushed of the best hand by checking.

- Jim

highlife 12-29-2005 02:56 PM

Re: 15/30 AJ
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villains range is a lot bigger than AQo. The only real merit I see to betting the river is to prevent being pushed of the best hand by checking.

- Jim

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah i know that, what i meant was the only better hand he would likely fold on the river to a bet is AQ.

BigEndian 12-29-2005 02:59 PM

Re: 15/30 AJ
 
I think you misunderstood me. He's calling the turn with a lot more than AQo that he would fold to a river bet. A lot of aces, broadway combos and sometimes worse.

- Jim

12-29-2005 03:00 PM

Re: 15/30 AJ
 
jason,

check/folding the river seems like the play if the turn bet doesn't take it down.

i assume you are folding if you get popped on the turn?

jason_t 12-29-2005 03:02 PM

Re: 15/30 AJ
 
[ QUOTE ]
i assume you are folding if you get popped on the turn?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes.

highlife 12-29-2005 03:06 PM

Re: 15/30 AJ
 
i know, but if those hands don't improve they will muck, if they do improve they will pop or at least call the river. thus no point to betting the river as a bluff.

Entity 12-29-2005 03:12 PM

Re: 15/30 AJ
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Villains range is a lot bigger than AQo. The only real merit I see to betting the river is to prevent being pushed of the best hand by checking.

- Jim

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah i know that, what i meant was the only better hand he would likely fold on the river to a bet is AQ.

[/ QUOTE ]

He's also folding a chop (AJ) and honestly, how wide is the range of his hands here?

The river is a very good time for a value bluff if you're called on the turn.

Rob


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