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obsidian 09-30-2005 03:47 PM

QQ raised on turn w/ 1 overcard
 
Was looking back at some hands and this one came up. Villain's stats are 46/8.7/1.6 and WtSD 30% over 207 hands. I'm not sure about this river fold.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (5 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

EvanJC 09-30-2005 04:03 PM

Re: QQ raised on turn w/ 1 overcard
 
villans aggression is fairly high for someone playing 46% of his hands...i'd have to call the river, but i'm curious about what others think.

obsidian 09-30-2005 04:16 PM

Re: QQ raised on turn w/ 1 overcard
 
I'm not sure of my read on him at the time, but by default turn raises mean top pair or better. Especially since I have raised PF and the texture of the board. It could also have been a flush draw or straight draw semi bluff. Since I have 2 queens that removes a lot of the straight draw possibilities. The only other one is the flush draw which hits.

I've been recently trying to not just say "hey, I got second pair I should call" and instead actually think about what the turn raise means. I felt fairly confident it wasn't a bluff, and considering my PF raise and the texture it meant TP or better (most likely better).

joeboss 09-30-2005 04:21 PM

Re: QQ raised on turn w/ 1 overcard
 
i think i can fold this without second thought

EvanJC 09-30-2005 04:22 PM

Re: QQ raised on turn w/ 1 overcard
 
if that's your read then good fold =)


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