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leehrat 12-20-2005 08:01 PM

Be careful at the doctor\'s office!
 
A little tale from another discussion board, take heed:


This is a note to all of you admits who will have to fill out your medical forms this summer. Be careful what little boxes you check off.

Last summer when I was getting my checkup, I was going through the endless checklist of symptoms, and for some reason I was feeling very thorough. When I got to "blood in stool," I thought hey, a couple times I think I've had a little blood on the TP, or something like that. So I checked the box. This became the subject of a 30 minute discussion with my GP. Once I realized that he was concerned I tried to do damage control, but it was too late. No amount of "it only happened once or twice that I can remember" and "it wasn't very much" made a difference. I walked out of the office with an appointment to see a proctologist and receive something called a flexible sigmoidoscopy.

I received the information on the procedure a week or two before the proctology appointment. It was scheduled for a morning. The last solid food or colored liquid I was allowed to consume was the night before the day before the appointment--no food for 36 hours. In the afternoon the day before, I had to drink an entire bottle of magnesium citrate laxative. It tasted vile, but I figure, what the hell, a good [censored] wouldn't hurt me. Little did I know the demons of hell that would be shooting out of my ass an hour later. It started with gurgling, then churning, then all out projectile ass-spewing. The walls of the toilet were painted brown. My eyes watered. It lasted for almost two hours. I crawled into bed and went to sleep. The next morning, before the appointment, I had to administer two fleet enemas to myself. If you've never done this, it's quite gay. The instructions on the box have you lay on the floor of your bathroom in the fetal position, then reach around and jam the thing up your ass, then slowly squeeze all the liquid into your rectum. Let it sit for a while, then stand up and "evacuate" in the crapper. I thought the sensation of the liquid entering my anus was upsetting and uncomfortable, and the resulting watery discharge somewhat horrifying. But I had no idea what was coming later that morning.

I arrived at the office and they quickly had me in a gown and in the room where the proceedure would occur. Doctor? Chick. Nurses? Two. Both chicks. I had to lie down on my side, again in the fetal position, facing a television screen. The one nurse then put a massive quantity of KY all over and into my ass. All the while they are telling me something that I can barely hear because my brain is shutting down from the humiliation. Something about bloating or air being injected into my lower GI. Suddenly the doctor approaches and I am violated. It's a tube, probably a half an inch thick, but it felt like [censored] King Dong. It has to be thick because the way it works is the end of the tube has a camera, a little jaw for taking tissue samples, a light, a water nozzle, suction, and an air nozzle. The air expands your intestine and then the light makes it all nice and visible, and then the camera puts the image of my insides on the TV four inches from my nose. Wow. Unfortunately, for whatever reason my laxative-enema combination was not administered very well, and the doctor lectured me for about five minutes on this topic while she used the water nozzle and suction to wash away residual poop from my insides. That was quite a show. And you've never had your ego bruised until you've been told that you can't even poop yourself empty right. Once I was nice and clean, she ran the tube up and down, all the while injecting more and more air into me. Eventually the gas pains were getting terrible, but I couldn't fart because she had the works plugged up. I felt like I'd eaten 40 pounds of beans. Finally, after finding nothing other than leftover [censored], after 15 minutes of probing, she calls it quits. The second she pulls the tube out, I let out a gigantic fart like you have never [censored] heard right at the doctor and the nurses. To their credit they didn't blink an eye. The doctor even said that was normal, and that I could go the adjoining bathroom to clean up and "get comfortable." No amount of time in that bathroom was going to make anything about this situation comfortable.

A few minutes later I had my clothes on and I was in the doctor's office. She again reminded me that I didn't do a good job of preparing (thanks), but thought that this was consistent with the symptom of blood on TP, and it was probably all due to chronic constipation. I said "I poop just fine, thanks," but she wasn't interested. She loaded me up with an armful of papers on what foods have fiber and what foods don't and she kicked me out the door.

It wasn't over. At this point I was starving. I went home and ate a huge pile of leftover pot roast from earlier in the week. I ate and ate and ate. Probably 3 pounds of the stuff, including vegetables and gravy. Turns out, something went wrong in the pot roast cooling and storage. Or maybe my body dind't react well. My body totally rejected it. I crapped and crapped for days after that, and it took almost a week before my guts were working right again.

So... all of you admits--be very very careful about what boxes you check when you get your physicals.

Oski 12-20-2005 08:09 PM

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At least you had the common decency to not post pictures.

TheBlueMonster 12-20-2005 08:15 PM

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I'm suddenly in the mood for a laxative. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Skipbidder 12-20-2005 08:17 PM

Re: Be careful at the doctor\'s office!
 
[ QUOTE ]
A little tale from another discussion board, take heed:


This is a note to all of you admits who will have to fill out your medical forms this summer. Be careful what little boxes you check off.

Last summer when I was getting my checkup, I was going through the endless checklist of symptoms, and for some reason I was feeling very thorough. When I got to "blood in stool," I thought hey, a couple times I think I've had a little blood on the TP, or something like that. So I checked the box. This became the subject of a 30 minute discussion with my GP. Once I realized that he was concerned I tried to do damage control, but it was too late. No amount of "it only happened once or twice that I can remember" and "it wasn't very much" made a difference. I walked out of the office with an appointment to see a proctologist and receive something called a flexible sigmoidoscopy.

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Your doctor is practicing at least ten years out of date.
There is no good excuse for doing flexible sigmoidoscopy (in comparison to colonoscopy) today. A colonoscopy has the benefit that you will likely get midazolam for the procedure. This has the neat effect of allowing you to still be conscious during the procedure (important if repositioning is required), yet being unlikely to remember the experience. It temporarily prevents new memories from forming. You still have the horrible prep beforehand, hoewever.

If you are 50 years old (unlikely on this board) or older or have a family history of colon cancer, then scoping was probably the right suggestion from your doc.

leehrat 12-20-2005 08:22 PM

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it wasn't my doc, thank god. there's no way in hell i would undergo this procedure even if my doctor suggested it. he can't force you too.

jcx 12-20-2005 08:39 PM

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Pray you never get Inflammatory Bowel Disease dude. Your experience is a walk in the park in comparison with what those folks deal with. As a previous poster stated, if you face this proceedure again, insist on a colonoscopy. Much easier to deal with.

12-20-2005 09:07 PM

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i laughed for five minutes straight. thanks.

Blarg 12-20-2005 10:28 PM

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Sounds nasty. I don't look forward to being old enough to get tests of this sort done frequently or regularly.

ddubois 12-20-2005 10:34 PM

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As an aside, your laxative story reminds me of those "colon-cleasing" products you can find advertised on shady websites and off-hours radio. Do you know if you pooped any long, worm-like parasites? I saw them on the Discovery channel, and I've always wondered if I have them and/or if it's worth trying to get rid of them.

Rockatansky 12-20-2005 10:41 PM

Re: Be careful at the doctor\'s office!
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A little tale from another discussion board, take heed:


This is a note to all of you admits who will have to fill out your medical forms this summer. Be careful what little boxes you check off.

Last summer when I was getting my checkup, I was going through the endless checklist of symptoms, and for some reason I was feeling very thorough. When I got to "blood in stool," I thought hey, a couple times I think I've had a little blood on the TP, or something like that. So I checked the box. This became the subject of a 30 minute discussion with my GP. Once I realized that he was concerned I tried to do damage control, but it was too late. No amount of "it only happened once or twice that I can remember" and "it wasn't very much" made a difference. I walked out of the office with an appointment to see a proctologist and receive something called a flexible sigmoidoscopy.

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Your doctor is practicing at least ten years out of date.
There is no good excuse for doing flexible sigmoidoscopy (in comparison to colonoscopy) today. A colonoscopy has the benefit that you will likely get midazolam for the procedure. This has the neat effect of allowing you to still be conscious during the procedure (important if repositioning is required), yet being unlikely to remember the experience. It temporarily prevents new memories from forming. You still have the horrible prep beforehand, hoewever.

If you are 50 years old (unlikely on this board) or older or have a family history of colon cancer, then scoping was probably the right suggestion from your doc.

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Did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

Blarg 12-20-2005 11:31 PM

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Those things show pics of people's pooped out casts of the inside of their guts, because there is clay in the powders and tablets that sets into those long creepy looking casts.

I did try an anti-worm pill from one of the most known ones called Paramil, and what do you know, for the first time in my life, I shat out a real live wriggly worm dancing around my toilet bowl. It was a small one, tiny, but that was good enough for me to be glad I bought the product. For what it's worth, I used to have much greater problems with pooping, bloating, irregularity, and such before I took it, probably because of the worms, and now I generally feel far better.

ChipWrecked 12-20-2005 11:35 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
As an aside, your laxative story reminds me of those "colon-cleasing" products you can find advertised on shady websites and off-hours radio. Do you know if you pooped any long, worm-like parasites? I saw them on the Discovery channel, and I've always wondered if I have them and/or if it's worth trying to get rid of them.

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There was a thread on this, with pics. You can search for it yourself, though... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

ddubois 12-21-2005 12:22 AM

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I had become aware of the cast-worm-lookalke explanation, but then later saw the Discovery channel thing, and subsequently didn't know what to think with regards to parasites.

wrongarm300 12-21-2005 12:49 AM

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This brings to mind the song "welcome to my life". As a Crohn's patient I know exactly what you went through, only I go through it on a regular basis. I try and keep my complaining to a minimum and always have a smile on my face when in public, but what you went through is only a small portion of my world.

It's no fun, just be glad that you aren't in this boat

gorie 12-21-2005 12:56 AM

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And you've never had your ego bruised until you've been told that you can't even poop yourself empty right.

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this was my favorite part!

Blarg 12-21-2005 01:10 AM

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Parasites can be real enough. But those places trying to sell you what is basically the standard psyllium husks dressed up with clay to make casts of your colon aren't it. Those places all show the same photos, and they're all casts of your colon. Think about it .. they have customer testimony of people shatting out huge things on a DAILY basis. Things confirmed as no life form by the way, coincidentally enough, eh? Do you really think your guts could hold these gigantic life forms in you by apparently the dozens since you're squeezing them out every day without your ever knowing about it until you got the miracle product? The things in those picture are huge and people say they're pumping them out day after day.

They weren't in there until you started eating the clay. The clay is what puts them in there in the first place.

That doesn't mean you don't or can't have worms. The Paramil I got worked and helped me get some out. But that's different from the stuff claiming you really have all these tinkertoys and erector sets up your butt that only their pill is discovering and can get out. It's only their pill that is putting them in there in the first place.

yellowjack 12-21-2005 01:14 AM

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awesome trip report
just brilliant, whether you intended it to be or not

Skipbidder 12-21-2005 01:22 AM

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I see. You were cross-posting about someone else's experience. Fair enough.

Not undergoing the procedure at all is very much -EV. Apart from not smoking (or quitting if you currently smoke), getting a colonoscopy is probably the biggest impact you can have on avoiding dying of cancer. (The impact is much much greater than mammograms for women.) Colon cancer is bad if you don't catch it early but very treatable if you do. The cancer tends to grow slowly enough that you have years in order to catch it (but doesn't tend to cause symptoms until late). If you don't have any family history of colon cancer, your doc won't be harping on you to get one until you are 50 years old or so. If that is clean, you won't need another for 10 years (although some argue for repeating them every 5 years).

Skipbidder 12-21-2005 01:36 AM

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Those things show pics of people's pooped out casts of the inside of their guts, because there is clay in the powders and tablets that sets into those long creepy looking casts.

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Spot on.

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I did try an anti-worm pill from one of the most known ones called Paramil,

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Link please? Is this the right spelling? I thought I was up-to-date on this stuff.

SteamingFish 12-21-2005 01:45 AM

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That magnesium citrate is indeed very powerful stuff. I took it once with similiar results, couldn't even believe it. I remembered Judge Reinhold from Beverly Hills Cop 2 (+/- 1) telling the other guy, "Did you know the average man has five pounds of undigested red meat in his bowels?" Not anymore!!!

Awesome post. I haven't been able to sit comfortably since reading it, though.

Blarg 12-21-2005 02:14 AM

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Oops Paranil. It's not an approved drug, just an herbal concoction. I decided to give it a shot and and did indeed see a live wiggling worm come out and crawl its way around for a good while before I flushed it.

Paranil

Not the sort of thing a doctor would go for I'm sure, but it was worth the money to me to give it a shot.

sarahbellum 12-21-2005 02:29 AM

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You think this is bad, try having a similar tube shoved up your nose and down your throat and into your stomach. NOT FUN.


p.s.
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I don't look forward to being old enough to get tests of this sort done frequently or regularly.

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Age has nothing to do with the need for these tests.

Blarg 12-21-2005 02:34 AM

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Aren't they routinely recommended once you hit a certain age?

As to the nose thing, I'm sure it's not fun, but it doesn't sound anywhere near as humiliating. I think I'd rather take the pain.

wrongarm300 12-21-2005 02:37 AM

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Age has nothing to do with getting these problems. I was 21 when I first found out I had Crohns, although I had suffered through the syptoms for roughly 4 years.

Blarg 12-21-2005 02:48 AM

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You're missing the point just like the other poster did.

wrongarm300 12-21-2005 02:50 AM

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Yes, they are recommended for people over 50 I think to check for colon cancer

imitation 12-21-2005 03:07 AM

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I have an interesting story about worms...after a massive like 18hr drinking session with some other drugs thrown in I go to take a huge [censored], it's slightly green which was odd but I think I was drinking something with blue food colouring. Anyway I'm trying to clean the [censored] from my ass but it's just not cleaning off so I decide to jump in the shower. As I reach around there to clean this nastiness away with a yet of water, I pull from my ass what must have been a 8-10inch wrigling worm, but it happened so quick I just didn't really catch on what was going on just to see it slide down the drain. Anyway I never had the problem again obviously the worm was trying to espcape my body.

Blarg 12-21-2005 03:13 AM

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My mom had my grandma pull a tapeworm out of her the same way when she was a little kid.


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