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manpower 10-10-2005 10:41 PM

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is killing your indentical twin murder? obviously, killing your clone is no different biologicaly.

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This is fact, but i doubt enough people know it to make it obvious.

tonypaladino 10-10-2005 10:42 PM

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How about if you kill a moran, is that murder?

mslif 10-10-2005 10:43 PM

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Im all for making clones and killing them for organs...and im not even kiddin...its not murder - and yes now everyones gonna go off on me and what a moron i am...lets go...

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I am not going to go off on you because scientifically and medically it would be great, but it is just morally wrong.

Claunchy 10-10-2005 10:44 PM

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Im all for making clones and killing them for organs...and im not even kiddin...its not murder - and yes now everyones gonna go off on me and what a moron i am...lets go...

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Okay. Against my better judgment, I'll bite.

How in the hell is it not murder? Are you under the impression that the clone can't feel or think the exact same as you?

LeatherFace 10-10-2005 10:45 PM

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How about if you kill a moran, is that murder?

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No its community service.

GuyOnTilt 10-10-2005 10:49 PM

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Im all for making clones and killing them for organs...and im not even kiddin...its not murder - and yes now everyones gonna go off on me and what a moron i am...lets go...

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Even if you don't think (for who knows what reasons) that cloned humans would be viable "humans", this seems pretty stupid considering we could just clone organs without the "human" being surrounding them.

GoT

theben 10-10-2005 10:54 PM

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...have you committed murder? Discuss.

I say no. It would be no different than cutting your fingernails. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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but can your fingernails think, feel, respirate, procreate, etc

10-10-2005 10:59 PM

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What if your clone decided you should die? Would he/she be commiting murder? Maybe it would be justifiable homicide?

He/she could always plead temporary insanity. He/she was confused as to who(m) was who(m) and decided that he/she was the original and he/she'd made a mistake and was only setting about rectifying the error.

Or, in the confusion of "who's who," he/she just went postal and whacked you.

PhatTBoll 10-10-2005 11:03 PM

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This thread is useless. The "clone vs. clone" issue was resolved without bloodshed in Star Trek: The Next Generation.

peachy 10-10-2005 11:08 PM

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Im all for making clones and killing them for organs...and im not even kiddin...its not murder - and yes now everyones gonna go off on me and what a moron i am...lets go...

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I am not going to go off on you because scientifically and medically it would be great, but it is just morally wrong.

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i used to hold this stances as well...but then i got diagnosed with a terminal liver condition - this changed my whole outlook on the situation. If i was allowed to clone a person or organ from my own DNA/tissues i would see no moral issue with it being used to save my life or the lives of others.


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