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villian is 30/12, comments on all streets.

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

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i'd be very tempted to 3-bet the turn, but that may be because i know he checked the river. i think you played this fine.

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I will often 3 bet it, it looks like a free showdown more or a slowplayed monster, but since it's a blind steal I 3bet.

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..."whiskey bar" ?


I like every street. I think the turn is the only question, to 3-bet or not...but his stats aren't too far out of line so I think a call down is fine.

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..."whiskey bar" ?


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little girl.

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anyway, what do you think his range is that limps ep, checkcalls flop then c/rs the turn?

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Standard. I don't 3-bet the turn here on this straight board b/c being 4-bet will blow and you will have to call (though I think you can possibly lay the river in this scenario w/o improvement). So anyway, just call the turn raise and ensure a bet goes in on the river - as you did.

Jeff

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3 betting the turn is suicide, especialy when u have 4 outs if your behind most of the time. j10 being the only exception. 10-9 is about the only hand you can beat that most 30-12's who limp under the gun have. Depending on how fancy he is, I could definitly see myself checking the river.

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anyway, what do you think his range is that limps ep, checkcalls flop then c/rs the turn?

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With a VPIP of 30, KQ and maybe 87s are possibilites. JT also. Set of nines. Sure you might have the best hand, but I don't think it is often enough to 3-bet, since you will get 4-bet a lot when behind.

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I will often 3 bet it, it looks like a free showdown more or a slowplayed monster, but since it's a blind steal I 3bet.

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How is it a blind steal? Or a free shodown play?

I think you played if perfectly.

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3 betting never entered my mind, no way should it. After the turn raise i was trying to think if i could fold anywhere, not on the turn since i'm 11:1 with implied, river fold would be 11:1 vs most likely straight then a distance 2nd of two pairs, so that seems like a no as well.

Had it not been raised preflop and i was getting roughly 7:1 on the turn seems to be a pretty good case for folding since it seems i'm always [censored] when anyone takes his actions.

After his river check i was unsure again if i should bet. Seemed like cocky straight vs cocky JQ. So i was going betfold. He checkcalled with TJo, i lost.

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3 betting never entered my mind, no way should it.

[/ QUOTE ]yeah... i would be too busy trying to decide whether to pay off a bet UI on river to take it to three bets like an effing lunatic.
BTW/ i woulde bet the river also, i bet this everytime, but im wondering alot lately if i should check more in these spots... do ppl really wait for the turn w/ QJ? i put him on QJ when i rwead the HH, but after seeing the results, JT seems seems to make more sense.... also he could be feigning weakness at the sight of the A w/ KQ/78 and going 4 the CR... i suppose u wouldnt have to pay that off, but id still like to save the bet ad get a SD. hmmm.

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I do not think I would have bet the river, the more i think about it.

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unless it's a table that's either real agressive or full of calling stations I fold preflop.... w/ that being said, I think u played it fine post flop... I might even raise his river bet here depending on the villian

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sry, I thought he opened the river.... I think it's played fine... I wouldn't check this river the way it was played

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the 3bet comments are humorous. I like the river bet.