10/20 AKo river fold
 

Villain is 43.5/20.4/1.97 over enough hands but is not a bad player. Since Empire has gotten small I have played with a lot of the same guys and recognize him playing the same games I am and from what I can tell he plays a few too many hands, and is very loose as far as draws, etc. Basically a LAG.

That being said, this is one of those folds I used to tell myself I'd never make, though I'm fairly certain it's standard.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero folds, Button still left to act

Re: 10/20 AKo river fold
 

You're getting nearly 15:1 and he is a LAG. I think he is bluffing here often enough.

Re: 10/20 AKo river fold
 

When he check raises on the river? I figured a bluff would make sense if button folded to my river bet, but when button called I think it's safe to rule out a bluff.

Re: 10/20 AKo river fold
 

While he could be bluffing, it is pretty hard to bluff both players, especially when button already called the original bet. SB could easily have AsKs, AQ, AsJs, AsTs, QQ, AA. I think these hands are so much more likely than some random bluff, that even though we are getting huge odds to call, a fold is probably ok. Furthermore, since button is in, and is calling most of the time, we get to see SBs hand anyway, so don´t have to call "just to keep him honest", or for future information

Re: 10/20 AKo river fold
 

Im overcalling, and prob mucking but maybe its because I suck, sometimes players like this get a little to fancy for their own good, and dont give him credit for observing the buttons play and call because he prob isnt thinking about it, also if you call i dont think the button does if hes a decent player?
I look forward to reading more posts here

Re: 10/20 AKo river fold
 

I think you are beat here enough to fold. With the button still in, I wouldn't put the SB on being tricky enough to be able to c/r without a hand. If the button had folded, I would be more inclined to call, as Villian may be thinking he only needs you to fold to make this work.