Folding Like A Lawn Chair
 

New to the tables, no reads at all. Am I just running bad, or are these super-weak?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

SB ($153.82)
BB ($273.20)
UTG ($203.55)
MP ($99.16)
CO ($160.58)
Hero ($197)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, SB calls $24, BB folds, MP folds.

Turn: ($64) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($64) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian pushes, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $64

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

MP ($373.58)
Hero ($187)
SB ($167.78)
BB ($207.85)
UTG ($282.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $7, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $18.

Turn: ($77) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $35</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $112

Re: Folding Like A Lawn Chair
 

hand 1: there are multiple ways to play this hand. given the previous action, folding the river isn't weak, it's smart.

hand 2: i would have folded to the check-raise on the flop with no reads. if i call the flop, i call the turn too.

Re: Folding Like A Lawn Chair
 

[ QUOTE ]
New to the tables, no reads at all. Am I just running bad, or are these super-weak?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

SB ($153.82)
BB ($273.20)
UTG ($203.55)
MP ($99.16)
CO ($160.58)
Hero ($197)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($8) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, SB calls $24, BB folds, MP folds.

Turn: ($64) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

i like to bet this turn and fold to a push

River: ($64) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Villian pushes, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $64

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

MP ($373.58)
Hero ($187)
SB ($167.78)
BB ($207.85)
UTG ($282.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $7, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $18.

i check through this flop

Turn: ($77) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $35</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $112

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besides that i like the folds...

Re: Folding Like A Lawn Chair
 

I think an argument could be made for calling hand 1. You checked the turn and couldve induced a bluff from a busted flush draw or a bet by a weaker king, but I don't think it's terribly weak to fold. Hand 2 is a clear fold, you aren't getting the odds to draw, your hand will be obvious if you hit and he may already have the straight in which you are drawing to get stacked or drawing to split.

Re: Folding Like A Lawn Chair
 

Maybe I'm missing something, but why are we folding in the first hand? Do we assume he had a full house?