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Matt Williams 12-17-2005 09:34 PM

Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
Tiki Barber is the Man.
Why isn't he being considered for MVP?

kschellenger 12-17-2005 09:58 PM

Re: Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
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Tiki Barber is the Man.
Why isn't he being considered for MVP?

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3rd in rushing yards, 6th in yds/carry, only 6 rushing TDs.

Matt Williams 12-17-2005 10:03 PM

Re: Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
Yea but over the last 2 months, he has accounted for over 50% of the Giants total offense. And it's not his fault that f'ing idiot Coughlin takes him out after he gets 50 or 60 yards and the Giants get inside the 10.
Or is NFL MVP not like MLB MVP?

kschellenger 12-17-2005 10:35 PM

Re: Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
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Yea but over the last 2 months, he has accounted for over 50% of the Giants total offense.

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Alexander accounts for 33% of Seattle's offense over the whole season and accounts for 23 of the teams 44 offensive touchdowns.

Zurvan 12-17-2005 10:55 PM

Re: Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
It's not like Barber gets stopped trying to score those touchdowns... he's not getting the opportunities.

They put in that other guy when they get inside the 5. Stats don't tell the whole story.

kschellenger 12-17-2005 10:59 PM

Re: Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
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Stats don't tell the whole story.

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They do for MVP.

Matt Williams 12-17-2005 11:04 PM

Re: Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
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It's not like Barber gets stopped trying to score those touchdowns... he's not getting the opportunities.

They put in that other guy when they get inside the 5. Stats don't tell the whole story.

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That's exactly my point. Tiki accounts for over 50% and the argument is Alexander accounts for 33%? Without Tiki, the Giants are behind both Dallas and Washington and maybe even the Eagles. The only time the Giants bring Jacobs in is when they need a TD or 1st down under 3 yards. Who gets the Giants within 3 yards? It sure ain't Ward. Not to mention how Tiki bails Jacobs out by running in the TD on 3rd or 4th down when the rookie f@cks up.

kschellenger 12-17-2005 11:10 PM

Re: Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
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Tiki accounts for over 50% and the argument is Alexander accounts for 33%?

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You said 50% over the last 2 months, that's not the whole season.

Edit: Look at the past winners. They have one thing in common: TDs. You want to know why he's not considered, he doesn't score.

Matt Williams 12-17-2005 11:13 PM

Re: Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
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Tiki accounts for over 50% and the argument is Alexander accounts for 33%?

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You said 50% over the last 2 months, that's not the whole season.

Edit: Look at the past winners. They have one thing in common: TDs. You want to know why he's not considered, he doesn't score.

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Oh OK, I thought you meant 33% in the same time frame. Oops. You are right about the TD's though, even though Barber should have more. It sucks.

DrunkIrish05 12-18-2005 12:18 AM

Re: Get on my back, and I will carry you!
 
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Yea but over the last 2 months, he has accounted for over 50% of the Giants total offense. And it's not his fault that f'ing idiot Coughlin takes him out after he gets 50 or 60 yards and the Giants get inside the 10.
Or is NFL MVP not like MLB MVP?

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Look at Larry Johnson over the same period. you wanna give him the award instead then? Remember, it's season long


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