Live or online tournaments which is more profitable?
 

Live or online tournaments which is more profitable?

LIVE BADs
You have a higher rake
rounds go by slower because of a live dealer.
Travel time, wait time.
LIVE GOOD
15-30 min rounds
Read opponent's tells
smaller field to get through
Get to hold some REAL chips [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

ONLINE BAD
Can't read players.
hundreds of players to weed through.
Too easy to just "click" an action
Not as much time on the clock for thinking.
Rounds are fast 9-15 mins.
Power/DSL/Modem/PC can go out at any second.
ONLINE GOOD
PC deals fast.
No travel expense
No travel time
No time wasted to start tournament
Get to be a Champion in your underwear
Quiet.
small start blinds in relation to stack.


As for opponents I think live has weaker opponents. More weak tight, loose players calling with dominated hands. They play scared because you have to put in $50-$200 for a good live tournament where online $33 is nothing. The poor players are easy to read like a big fat highway sign.

I prefer live personally and have done better live.

Thoughts and reasons why one is better than the other?

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Wow. You live in Florida and prefer live tournaments?

I hate the live structures that are "constricted" due to the crazy Florida laws regarding poker. I almost refuse to play live here unless it's just to get out with friends and have some fun. I agree the players are usually weak tight, but the structures and laws surrounding poker play in this state are so ridiculous that I greatly prefer online play.

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Live Bad additions.
Often have great extra expense w/hotel and meals out.
There are not many that you are physically able to enter/

On Line Good additions.
Huge number of tourneys available make ROI easier to realize.
Comfort of Home play makes stress of playing easier to handle.
Bathroom breaks have a much shorter line.
Your wife can sub if you need to play catch outside with your son.

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a couple you missed..

ONLINE GOOD
Multi-tabling, obviously.
Saved HH + PokerTracker, essential for the studious player.

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Live Good: Horrid play compared to the same buy in levels on line.

Regards,
Woodguy

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Live Bad additions.
Often have great extra expense w/hotel and meals out.
There are not many that you are physically able to enter/

On Line Good additions.
Huge number of tourneys available make ROI easier to realize.
Comfort of Home play makes stress of playing easier to handle.
Bathroom breaks have a much shorter line.
Your wife can sub if you need to play catch outside with your son.

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lol. Ive had my wife sub when the bowels came a callin'

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Really?

The ones I play are generally
$150 buy in with the house taking 20%
30 min rounds with 4000 chips.

Is there better? Please inform, please do.

BTW I am moving to Baltimore after my house sells here in Fort Lauderdale. AC is 3 hours away woohoo!

Wife got a kickin' job that pays a lot.

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I can't multi table any tournaments.

I feel blind when I can't see my opponents and their little mannerisms. I can't talk to them into revealing their hands.

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Live Bad additions.
Often have great extra expense w/hotel and meals out.
There are not many that you are physically able to enter/

On Line Good additions.
Huge number of tourneys available make ROI easier to realize.
Comfort of Home play makes stress of playing easier to handle.
Bathroom breaks have a much shorter line.
Your wife can sub if you need to play catch outside with your son.

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lol. Ive had my wife sub when the bowels came a callin'

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You need a laptop with wireless internet. I have played many, many hands from the crapper.

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You need a laptop with wireless internet. I have played many, many hands from the crapper.

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ONLINE BAD
Can't read players.

I prefer live personally and have done better live.

Thoughts and reasons why one is better than the other?

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sounds like you answered your own question.

i prefer live, bc players are less fearless. its easier to bully tables when your sitting there (at lower buyins at least).

Online good: hand histories. multitabling.

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I can't multi table any tournaments.

I feel blind when I can't see my opponents and their little mannerisms. I can't talk to them into revealing their hands.

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Doesn't mean it doesn't belong on the list.
By that logic nothing should be on there because there isn't a single thing on there that holds universally for all players.

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True that.

I just played my first live multi here about 4 weeks ago.

For those that don't know, Florida's SnGs are $45 buy-in. But it's not what you think. It is $32+13. Yes that's right! I didn't stutter, and it's not a typo. With a rake like that, people still do SnGs. Some people do 4 or more a day!.
Payout is $200 and $120, BTW.

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I didnt say it shouldnt be on the list, I said I can't do it because I'm too....

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Live Bad: That dreaded tip envelope at the final table.

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LIVE GOOD
15-30 min rounds
ONLINE BAD
9-15 minute rounds


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A 10 minute round online is very close to a 20 minute round live. More importantly most live structures, especially at lower (sub $100) buy ins, are very fast many times doubling each round. Online the rounds are generally much more gradual (e.g. 10/20->15/30 instead of 10/20->20/40). To make matters worse I've seen many live tournaments start you with less than 50bb, whereas online tournaments generally start at 50-75. When it comes to structure, online wins hands down.

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good point.

Personally I think my hand/player reading ability live outweighs the bads. I have played many online and live tournaments and I do far better live. I have final tabled maybe twice online ever, placed 2-3 times in the chump change, out of about probably 50 MTT tournaments. Live I have final tabled 3 times playing 15 MTT. About 5 were BULCRAP tournaments that I forgot to check the structure. 1500 chips 50/100 starting blinds. I poop on those tournaments.

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Really?

The ones I play are generally
$150 buy in with the house taking 20%
30 min rounds with 4000 chips.

Is there better? Please inform, please do.

BTW I am moving to Baltimore after my house sells here in Fort Lauderdale. AC is 3 hours away woohoo!

Wife got a kickin' job that pays a lot.

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Where do you play with this structure? I haven't found anything remotely close and I thought I had tried just about every MTT locally. I'm in Davie and would love to find a structure like this - it would certainly change my feelings about live tournament structures here.