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MRBAA 08-01-2005 01:18 PM

Folding AK preflop
 
$1/2 live game. Started with a 30bb stack, doubled up and have 60bb ($120) for this hand. Solid player who's stuck and playing uber tight open raises to $15 in ep. Loose passive but reasonable standards guy cold calls in mp. I'm next in mp, holding AK and I fold.

TheWorstPlayer 08-01-2005 01:20 PM

Re: Folding AK preflop
 
How many handed is it? My live game is almost always short.

MRBAA 08-01-2005 01:21 PM

Re: Folding AK preflop
 
Full table, three still to act behind me. Everyone has me covered.

beekeeper 08-01-2005 01:42 PM

Re: Folding AK preflop
 
Since you don't say that they're suited, I'm assuming they are offsuit.

SSHE says: "...be prepared to fold all offsuit hands except AK to a raise. Reraise with AK."

But that is only in a situation where the pot's been raised--nothing's said about "raised and called."

If the caller had AA or KK, would he have reraised? I think those are the hands that worry you most. If your hand was suited, I think it's a harder decision.

Mackerel 08-01-2005 01:47 PM

Re: Folding AK preflop
 
I don't mind this play at all in this circumstance. AK is just nut no pair until it flops something, and you're a big dog to flop anything good enough to feel comfortable playing aggressively with if the uber-tight, already pissed, guy up front starts firing after the flop. But then again, I'm not as big a fan of AKo as a lot of people around here seem to be.

MRBAA 08-01-2005 01:50 PM

Re: Folding AK preflop
 
Yes, offsuit. Suited I play here. My thinking was that the range of hands the ep tight raiser could have would probably be AK, AQ, TT-AA. And the range of hands the caller could have would be 55-AA, AK-AJ (or maybe ATs/A9s), KQ. And there are three players still to act -- one very LAG.

swolfe 08-01-2005 01:56 PM

Re: Folding AK preflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
SSHE says: "...be prepared to fold all offsuit hands except AK to a raise. Reraise with AK."

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SSHE is also a limit book, and as such, has absolutely nothing to do with proper NL play.

to the OP: too weak! call to see the flop at least. also, buy in deeper [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

jonoo 08-01-2005 02:12 PM

Re: Folding AK preflop
 
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to the OP: too weak! call to see the flop at least. also, buy in deeper [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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yeah what are you buying in $60 at a 1/2NL game for?

MRBAA 08-01-2005 02:15 PM

Re: Folding AK preflop
 
Experienced limit player. Learning n/l -- in part cause it's the often the only game available at nyc clubs. Low buy in lets me simplify the game while I"m learning.

Why do you think this is "too weak" s wolfe?

-Skeme- 08-01-2005 02:19 PM

Re: Folding AK preflop
 
[ QUOTE ]
SSHE says

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SSHE is also a Limit book.


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