stars $55+5 3 handed
 

im leader with 5165 on button. sb 3325 , bb 5010. blinds 200/400 25 ante.
A2o. i pushed. right play?

Re: stars $55+5 3 handed
 

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im leader with 5165 on button. sb 3325 , bb 5010. blinds 200/400 25 ante.
A2o. i pushed. right play?

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Not the most information rich question, but I'm raising to like 900 more often than not.

Re: stars $55+5 3 handed
 

i don't like it b/c you've got 10+BB's. i might push if the blinds were 300/600. plus people open up their calling ranges once ITM.

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i don't like it b/c you've got 10+BB's. i might push if the blinds were 300/600. plus people open up their calling ranges once ITM.

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I don't think having 10+BBs here is really the issue...so what? he's got 12?

Us turbo players have to think about where these "guidelines" originate from, and also, think about the fact that they are, in essence, just "guidelines".

The 10BB thing came up as a standard rule for party SNGs where there are no antes. Having a little over 10BBs where raising and being reraised makes it still +EV to call (even given reraiser's now tighter range) makes it even better to just open push because of the added FE (never mind the added pot equity from antes and future antes you are paying to see cards).

I havent run the numbers on this, but I would guess giving BB a "loose-average" calling range should be right.

That being said...because the other stack has 3/5th of Hero and BB, I might open to 1000 and just simply outplay BB from position. If he pushes, I might be inclined to give him credit.

Sorry, just wanted to chime in on the 10BB thing...here though, I think raising might be better, but it has more to do with the stack sizes than being "over 10bbs".

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Re: stars $55+5 3 handed
 

You're right, only setting each player to maniac gives -EV.

Re: stars $55+5 3 handed
 

but it's soooo close. I fold preflop. At 10 bb's I think a push is mandatory.

Re: stars $55+5 3 handed
 

I think I'd let this go too, but it's close.

Re: stars $55+5 3 handed
 

I can't push this. i might raise to 1,000-1,200 or I may just let it go depending on how I feel about my opponents

Re: stars $55+5 3 handed
 

I push this often enough, and have wondered if it might be a mistake. I just feel a standard raise is begging BB to come over the top as he actually has a decent amout of FE. So I either fold or push, most of the time push. But it's these hands that usually gets me into trouble.

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I think I'd let this go too, but it's close.

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You are open mucking here?