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J-Lo 11-29-2005 11:27 PM

$55-- preflopop early w/ QQ...big hand vs 2+2er and donk
 
does anyone else see the overbet reraise as a weak hand? AA/KK woudl reraise to 250-300... right? or is he telegraphing that? Pusher was very donkish, little help?
***** Hand History for Game 3117685193 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:17842214 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, November 29, 21:39:24 EDT 2005
Table Table 71228 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: jelHEAT ( $850 )
Seat 2: po69ker ( $1585 )
Seat 5: captdon ( $1315 )
Seat 9: jcl10s ( $855 )
Seat 10: chnkylover57 ( $2030 )
Seat 8: manporter69 ( $2310 )
Seat 6: astrosux85 ( $1055 )
Trny:17842214 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chnkylover57 [ Qh Qd ]
astrosux85 folds.
manporter69 folds.
jcl10s folds.
chnkylover57 raises [90].
jelHEAT calls [90].
po69ker raises [435].
captdon is all-In [1285]
chnkylover57 folds.
jelHEAT folds.
po69ker calls [865].
chnkylove......?

bigt439 11-29-2005 11:48 PM

Re: $55-- preflopop early w/ QQ...big hand vs 2+2er and donk
 
I peace out. That's a lot of action.

J-Lo 11-30-2005 01:49 AM

Re: $55-- preflopop early w/ QQ...big hand vs 2+2er and donk
 
well donk who pushed had QJs, and i had that read no him-- that he was a donk, and the reraiser(2+2er) had AK, of course had i called tpter woulda folded... but i was also afraid of the fact that donks can also wake up w/ big hands... me and po69er got HU and he won at the end, but this was the pivotal hand... very early, had i had the chiplead, i woulda been able to abuse others the way he did... god poker can be frustrating

Newt_Buggs 11-30-2005 02:47 AM

Re: $55-- preflopop early w/ QQ...big hand vs 2+2er and donk
 
If you know that po69ker is solid then you have to fold. The average solid player's hand range crushes QQ here.

applejuicekid 11-30-2005 03:58 AM

Re: $55-- preflopop early w/ QQ...big hand vs 2+2er and donk
 
What reasonable hand range crushes QQ?

Newt_Buggs 11-30-2005 04:09 AM

Re: $55-- preflopop early w/ QQ...big hand vs 2+2er and donk
 
Some solid multitabelers are only reraising here with QQ+. Others are going to throw AK and JJ into the mix, but there is a lower probability of this.

QQ against AK, JJ+ wins 47.4%
QQ against AKs, QQ+ wins 42.5%
QQ against AK, QQ+ wins 40.2%
QQ against QQ+ wins 20.7%

Mixing in dead money from a total donk 3rd player doesn't help too much

Hand 1: 32.3945 % [ 00.31 00.01 ] { QQ }
Hand 2: 49.7997 % [ 00.48 00.02 ] { AA-QQ, AKo }
Hand 3: 17.8058 % [ 00.17 00.01 ] { AA-55, AKs-ATs, KQs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs, AKo-AJo, KQo-KJo, QJo }

tigerite 11-30-2005 08:44 AM

Re: $55-- preflopop early w/ QQ...big hand vs 2+2er and donk
 
You've already folded. Good fold at that.


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