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pokerjoker 12-18-2005 10:42 PM

floped a set...time to get paid
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB ($288.10)
UTG ($192)
UTG+1 ($147.40)
MP1 ($177.40)
MP2 ($391.75)
MP3 ($332)
Hero ($198.80)
Button ($149.70)
SB ($198.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, MP1 calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $10, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $6, MP1 calls $6.

Flop: ($43) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($103) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>,

anyone get more aggro on flop? Is turn bet OK? My reasoning for just calling flop was to try and get money in from the other two guys

Gregg777 12-18-2005 10:45 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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anyone get more aggro on flop?

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I would raise the flop to 60 because it looks like you are just challenging their c-bet with position.

If he calls and you 1/2 pot the turn your hand doesn't look as strong as it is, and it's easy to get the rest in on the river.

srm80 12-18-2005 10:52 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
i don't like check calling with 2 players behind you, i would either have bet out $40 or $45, or check with the intention of raising to at least $100. I like a PSB or all in on the turn.

deadmoney98 12-18-2005 10:55 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
I like the way you played this. Not much you can do if your opponent has Ace high, he is not paying off anything.

Leptyne 12-18-2005 10:56 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
Call behind on the flop hoping somebody's got AJ, T9, etc. On the blank turn this looks like a miss so you've got to try to get some money out there. Hopefully this is not a c/r trap. I call the flop because I'd like to see if I can find another caller. When I hit bottom set either nobody has a hand or I'm up against set over set. Better to win a small pot.

Gregg777 12-18-2005 10:58 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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My reasoning for just calling flop was to try and get money in from the other two guys

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There aren't any draws, with that action you are usually getting folds or a push.

Gregg777 12-18-2005 11:02 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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Not much you can do if your opponent has Ace high, he is not paying off anything.

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That's why I would rather try to get a call on the flop instead of hoping for him to catch on the turn and insta folding to any blank.

Gregg777 12-18-2005 11:08 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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Call behind on the flop hoping somebody's got AJ, T9, etc.

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Based on the preflop action I doubt UTG or MP2 has AJ or T9, so you are gambling that MP1 has something instead of trying to extract more from MP2 who has shown interest.

soah 12-18-2005 11:22 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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anyone get more aggro on flop?

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I would raise the flop to 60 because it looks like you are just challenging their c-bet with position.

If he calls and you 1/2 pot the turn your hand doesn't look as strong as it is, and it's easy to get the rest in on the river.

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Since when does a minraise in a multiway reraised pot not look at all strong?

soah 12-18-2005 11:23 PM

Re: floped a set...time to get paid
 
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i don't like check calling with 2 players behind you, i would either have bet out $40 or $45, or check with the intention of raising to at least $100. I like a PSB or all in on the turn.

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When there is a bet in front of you your only options are to fold, call, or raise. Checking and betting are impossible.


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