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Jester999 12-27-2005 12:38 PM

Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
Here's a hand I played yesterday which is stil stuck in my craw.

I ($225) limp UTG+1 with 3c3d. Folded to the SB ($330) who calls and the Villain in the Big Blind ($220) checks. POt is $6.

My read on Villain is that he's not a moron but doesn't know what he's doing either. He too loose preflop and fairly aggressive on the flop but he slows way down on the turn and river. For you poker tracker guys, I think he's like 48, 8, 1.

Flop comes:
3h 6c Td

SB checks, Villain bets $6, I call (?), SB folds.

Pot is $18.

The turn is 6d.

SB checks. I ?

I raise the flop on a hand like this about 90% of the time.

Thoughts and comments.

TheGrifter 12-27-2005 12:45 PM

Re: Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
Pot the flop. Look to get as much money in as you can on this board at this limit he'll call with a wide range of hands. You gain nothing by checking.

unlucky513 12-27-2005 12:52 PM

Re: Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
why not lead the flop this hand? you're OOP and this is an un-raised pot. i'm leading my sets in unraised pots 100% of the time.

lead the flop, 3/4 of the pot on the turn.

Jester999 12-27-2005 01:16 PM

Re: Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
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why not lead the flop this hand? you're OOP and this is an un-raised pot. i'm leading my sets in unraised pots 100% of the time.

lead the flop, 3/4 of the pot on the turn.

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I'm in position against the blinds.

Jester999 12-27-2005 01:18 PM

Re: Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
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Pot the flop. Look to get as much money in as you can on this board at this limit he'll call with a wide range of hands. You gain nothing by checking.

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This guy had been taking shots at raggedy flops with 3 or less people in the hand and folding to aggression.

TheGrifter 12-27-2005 01:21 PM

Re: Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
At some point you need to get aggressive in an unraised pot. There isn't enough out there for him to bluff at. With your line you limit your opportunity to win a big pot which is why you played 33 in the 1st place.

TheGrifter 12-27-2005 01:22 PM

Re: Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
You need to re-read the original post.

unlucky513 12-27-2005 01:26 PM

Re: Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
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You need to re-read the original post.

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whoops.. in that case i make a pot-sized raise on the flop.

Jester999 12-27-2005 01:38 PM

Re: Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
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You need to re-read the original post.

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whoops.. in that case i make a pot-sized raise on the flop.

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No worries.

I smooth called because, as I said, this guy was taking shots at raggedly flop and folding when played back at. Even though this thread is young I'm beginning to fully realize that I made a grievous error.

Leptyne 12-27-2005 01:46 PM

Re: Uderfull on the turn - Party 6 Max, $200
 
Raise the flop, PSB at turn and river.

Jester999 12-27-2005 02:00 PM

Results
 
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Raise the flop, PSB at turn and river.

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Just making sure I was a monkey and yes, it has been confirmed. When I'm running bad (and I'm running bad) I have a tendency to make HUGE errors in judgement trying to get every last nickel out of my 'big' hands. I end up letting people hang around and I lose monster pots. God, I love this leak.

Anyway, I just checked behind on the turn. [homer simpson]doh![/homer simpson] The river was a 9. He bet the pot, I raised more than the minimum, he min reraised, I threw up in my mouth, I called, and he showed me 6s full of 9s. The funny thing is if I had raised the flop he probably calls and then we probably get it all in the turn. I get stacked but play the hand well. Instead, I play the hand like a donkey and lose a bit less money.

Thanks for the time and effort.


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