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aK13 09-09-2005 08:12 AM

87s....
 
This table was awesome. Only good TAG was MP who folded preflop. Reads:

BB is kinda loose-aggressive: 40/15/1.5 over 130 hands (mined) with a fold BB of 50%.

Button is loose-aggressive preflop, semi-aggressive postflop: 40/30/1.5 over 330 hands (mined) but plays *ok* postflop (can make folds when he thinks he is beaten, i.e. when he raises preflop and misses w/ overs, he continuation bets the flop 50% of the time, but usually check/folds the turn UI)

UTG is a 78/5.5/.44 LP over 180 hands (mined).

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button folds.

River: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

krishanleong 09-09-2005 08:20 AM

Re: 87s....
 
I think I go ahead and bet/fold that river. Most LPs won't bet a pair of 3s but will call with it.

Krishan

mikeyKay 09-09-2005 08:58 AM

Re: 87s....
 
anyone fold this pre flop due to blind structure and relative position to the raiser?

-mike

krishanleong 09-09-2005 09:04 AM

Re: 87s....
 
[ QUOTE ]
anyone fold this pre flop due to blind structure and relative position to the raiser?

-mike

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Relative position is really good. You want to be able to face the field with 2 with a hand that when paired is still pretty magrinal.

Krishan

spydog 09-09-2005 09:12 AM

Re: 87s....
 
Easy river bet. Ace high will call you here and it's easy to fold to a river raise from UTG. With his stats you are nearly better off check-folding than check-calling (well, maybe if the pot is smaller), but bet-folding is by far the best option.

mikeyKay 09-09-2005 09:19 AM

Re: 87s....
 
alright, so your point is that if you flop a big draw, you dont really care about your position because you will have a ton of equity and you can ram and jam. if you flop a marginal hand, you are in the best position to protect your weak holding? that sound about right?

-mike

krishanleong 09-09-2005 09:27 AM

Re: 87s....
 
[ QUOTE ]
alright, so your point is that if you flop a big draw, you dont really care about your position because you will have a ton of equity and you can ram and jam. if you flop a marginal hand, you are in the best position to protect your weak holding? that sound about right?

-mike

[/ QUOTE ]

Pretty much. You can play a hand like this just for flush/straight value alone with this many limpers. Being able to take down pots with pairs because of good relative position is a bonus.

Krishan


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